As I suspected, this poll is pretty clear already.

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I know people get annoyed by changing the army books, but realistically we have to be flexible and deal with the changes in the 40k universe. Yearly seems about right to me.
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Really? I'd more rather I didn't have army lists that keep on changing all the bloody time just because some corportate schmuk wants to release a new toy.

I speak for myself only but I thought we're into epic for it's relative sturdiness over other games (that and it's plain old awesome).

I'd like to debate this more as I must admit it's an area I feel quite strongly in but perhaps I should make it into a thread itself? (OPIONS please? If need be I'll start one up)

We seem to be going through a fair whack of discussion about where epic and the forums would/could/should go at the moment so it seems a fair enough point to debate.

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Good points MoK, if we all had put the energy and effort we have endlessly debating the minutia of marines into Tau, Nids etc we would have far more finished* lists than we do now

*I do accept that no list is every truly finished, but good enough to stand up while more deserving lists are worked on.

Excellent.

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Couldn't agree more if I'd posted it first myself, and tattooed it on my forehead.

My eyes glaze over whenever I see the addition of/change to a unit or formation "because that's how it is in 40K now". Especially given the stated NetEA's design principle of role basis, rather than unit specifics (the reason for the abstraction of Ork Boyz, Veteran Marines being subsumed, etc).

I have absolutely no problem with changes for balance, or changes because the existing list conflict with the traditional concepts (not specifics) of the background. But there's a reason I left 40K. Well, several, but the main one was this whole "lets redefine everything every couple of years" thing.

Morgan Vening

I've long thought that it makes far more sense for Epic to keep pace with concepts than with specifics.

If creating a Dark Angels list, don't worry about the latest codex. Draw from the various incarnations and create an ur-Dark Angels. Same deal with Marines, Eldar, etc.

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This, please this. I would much rather deal with annual updates than have to deal with constantly checking to see if X army list has been updated since Y days ago.

My personal preferences aside, (Well, not really since this is personal preference too...) I think it would just make more sense to have an annual release date set in stone and just throw out FAQs anytime there's something that NEEDS to be updated earlier. This way we can maintain the flexibility of the rules without stressing everyone out over sporadic changes/fixes/updates/etc.

Now, on the subject of GW themed changes/updates I feel a bit torn. While I agree that it's ridiculous to have to change things every time GW throws out a new Codex, I do like to have things changed up a bit from time to time so that things don't start feeling stale. I think Simulated Knave has the right idea for how to get the best of both worlds in this instance.

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ah ok, this i was unaware of, ignore all my comments prior haha, thanks for the info


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To be blunt

1 IIRC this was ths situation several months ago too. If CS hasn't got the time to do this then find somebody else - I'm sure there are loads of website-savvy people on TC

2 Same - if Chroma doesn't have time then find a volunteer(s) who do. If the supplements have shown one thing its that TC community can produce documents to a good standard.

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I agree with Steve and will also be blunt; You're on the ERC.
That means you have a duty to actively push for things to get done, not wait around while others do things.
If you're not going to do your duty as an ERC member, ask someone else to step into your place.
Being on the ERC isn't just a reward for having a long interest in Epic, but a commitment of duty to the community.
Disappearing for six months, or hanging around but not doing anything... for all we love 'ya, that's not doing your duty.

1 - "netepic" recently offered hosting. Contact him.

2 - Probably 5% of the people on TacComms are both willing and have the time and software available to help out with data entry. Just put out a call for help and you'll have a dozen people offering their time.

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*nods* The EPICentre uses a CMS, I can give you access to it so you can even upload the files yourself add news items to the news feed. That way, even though I'm 100% willing to do the work for you, if I am hit by a bus, or a hooker steals my kidneys you can still make the changes you.

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I think schedules and mandates and requirements are going to do one thing: cause us to lose NetERC members. Typically Hena, Neal, and Chroma have all had an an abundance of time to post and work on things. We've just hit a perfect storm where everybody's time is limited. And before anybody comes close to posting that it may be a good thing to get rid of people, bite your tongue, wait 24 hours, and then reconsider if you would post it.

NetERC, I'll help with the formatting. Get me the raw docs and I'll start collating things. Consider the Epic: Xenos project postponed.

One volunteer down, X to go.

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It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I've got my Milkbone underwear on.

I am in no way suggesting we get the knives out if the Armies Book / Website / etc. doesn't get done by xxx date.

I'm just asking for a little more focused effort, and a responsible appointment of a "second" if an ERC member has an intention of going on sabbatical for an extended time.

I've volunteered my help with data entry on the Armies Book several times before, and do so again now.

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