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[NetEA] Army Compendium - DRAFT - Orks
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:46 pm 
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Quote: (GlynG @ Sep. 22 2009, 14:36 )

Blood Axe Lootaz and just Blood Axe Kommados perhaps?

Kolonel Rommelz' is Blood Axe *MERCENARIES*... so, dat'z different too!

I'm going to try to convince Neal to include teh "Blood Axe Taktics" special rule in his Blood Axe version as well... cuz Blood Axes is ded-kunnin'!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:49 pm 
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Why not just Rommel'z Mercenaries? It means the same thing anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:50 pm 
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Quote: (Hena @ Sep. 22 2009, 14:47 )

I would leave the words 'Blood Axe' only to one list not multiple.

Why?  If the name is distinct, "Blood Axe Mercenary" or "Blood Axe Kommando" War Horde, each can be easily listed and shown to be different.

It would be quite possible for there to be different army lists for the "same" armies based on different conflicts, etc.  As long as the names are distinct, there shouldn't be a problem.

As these names propagate through EPICdom, the "new" ones will stick and confusion will be minimized.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:13 pm 
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Quote: (Chroma @ Sep. 22 2009, 23:50 )

As these names propagate through EPICdom, the "new" ones will stick and confusion will be minimized.

Such a statement fails to acknowledge the confusion that new players will face.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:17 pm 
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Quote: (frogbear @ Sep. 22 2009, 15:13 )

Such a statement fails to acknowledge the confusion that new players will face.

When completed, this will be a document with all the army names listed in a table of contents, with introductory text and explanations, how is that going to be confusing?

It may *appear* confusing at the moment, but these are raw/draft documents for proofing, not the finished product.

*AND* this document is *NOT* a supplement, but a "wookbook", to inspire people's development of actual supplements and as a repository of lists.  It is not a "bible" but a "compendium".




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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:29 pm 
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Quote: (Hena @ Sep. 22 2009, 15:19 )

Because it's confusing. I don't want to deal with two Blood Axe lists when being a tournament organiser. I suppose it's laziness, but the reality is that people don't want to learn too many new names when less is sufficient.

So if they were called "SUMBUDDIERUVVER’S KOMMANDO WAR HORDE" and "KOLONEL ROMMELZ' MERCENARIES", you wouldn't have a problem?

They *are* both Blood Axe lists, and all you gotta decide as a tournament organizer is if you want to allow "that Ork Merc army" or "that Ork Kommando army" and you're done.  If both lists have "Ork" in them, is that going to confuse people?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:33 pm 
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Possible thought: why not rename whichever the mercenary list is Ork Freebooterz? Freebooterz have been around since Rogue Trader and were orks living outside of normal ork society that often operate as mercenaries.
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Quote: (frogbear @ Sep. 22 2009, 15:13 )

Quote: (Chroma @ Sep. 22 2009, 23:50 )

As these names propagate through EPICdom, the "new" ones will stick and confusion will be minimized.

Such a statement fails to acknowledge the confusion that new players will face.

I think that clear statements, written in huge bold letters, about the officialness of the NetEA rules really should be enough.

The only offical rules are those posted on the GW website.

Stuff produced by NetEA, Epic UK and the like can only be considered unoffical fan works, (until such time as GW choose to publish any of it). They're house or club rules.

Veterans who are familiar with the NetEA, or Epic-UK lists should politely ask their opponents if they'd like to use this stuff - especially if the opponent is a newb.

Players should never feel forced or overly pressured to use unnoficial stuff.

Now - I don't see how anyone can have a problem with that

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:04 pm 
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I haver the strong urge to cobble together an Ork army list using all the gubbins of the current Codex Ork and that what Forgewolrd actually is shurning out....

Buti still have a lot of other stuff to do.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:33 am 
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having 2 blood axe armies is not confusing in the least. no one said anything before and they have been around for a while. they are both great lists and should be kept the way they are.
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Quote: (GlynG @ Sep. 22 2009, 15:33 )

Possible thought: why not rename whichever the mercenary list is Ork Freebooterz? Freebooterz have been around since Rogue Trader and were orks living outside of normal ork society that often operate as mercenaries.

A good point.

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Quote: (Chroma @ Sep. 23 2009, 00:17 )

*AND* this document is *NOT* a supplement, but a "wookbook", to inspire people's development

I want a 'wookbook' !!

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Neal, how about dropping the wildboyz mobs to 125, as per discussion here and as UK set have done?

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