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2024 Quality of Life Changes

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:58 pm 
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I asked for a vote on a few list changes at the end of last year. They fell mainly into three groups:

  • non-changes (name typos)
  • cross-list consistency changes (one list is X another is Y)
  • stuff active player groups (New England an/or UK) have tested and can be safely adopted at this point, in the ERC's opinion

The list of approved changes are as follows:

LatD/StD
  • fix the Lord of Battles name in the datasheet
  • standardize Plague Zombies at 3+2d6 in LatD
  • Doomwing and Firelord Flamecannon becomes "15cm 2x AP4+/AT5+/AA6+ FxF, IC" (effectively it gains 2x on its current stats but the AA is slightly worse)
  • drop Silver Towers to 300 points (to match UK Red Corsairs)

Baran
  • drop Baran Flak Battery to 125 (100 was a typo, 150 was an NDC overcompensation, 125 was what it was in swordwind)
  • change Fortified Positions to 52cm of trenches etc. (50 isn't divisible by 4, and every 4cm of trench gives a unit a save)

Necron
  • add Necron Overlord, a Supreme Commander character for +50, that can be added to Necron Lord or Warbarque if C'tan isn't taken (taken from Epic UK list)
  • change Eques Maniple to 6-9 Destroyers, Heavy Destroyers or *Wraiths* (allow a pure Wraith formation like Epic UK list) cost stays at 300 and +50 for the 0-3 extras
  • remove 0-1 and 0-2 restrictions on Harvesters and Warbarque (overly restrictive at higher point games)

Orks
  • change core units of Stompamob to "Four Stompas" (matches Gargant list and better fits the reduced price of the extra Stompa)

Imperial Fists
  • change Fortified Positions to 52cm of trenches etc. (50 isn't divisible by 4, and every 4cm of trench gives a unit a save)

Tyranids
  • decrease Tyranid Swarm Trygon upgrades from +60 to +50 (unable to Tunnel in this formation)
  • increase Genestealer Swarm from 6 for 150, to 8 for 175, and decrease upgrades from +25 to +20 (under-performers)
  • increase Trygon Swarm from 3 for 225, to 4 for 250, and decrease upgrades from +65 to +60 (under-performers)
  • Gargoyles gain IC on their FF (help recoup the 2 swarming point cost)

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 Post subject: Re: 2024 Quality of Life Changes
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:34 pm 
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Thanks for updating those lists Dave!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:21 pm 
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looks good!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:56 pm 
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Thank you for all the good work Dave and we should as always return to our work on dark Eldar and finalize that list also at some point. Even if it is just brining the UK aircraft stats over to our list.


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 Post subject: Re: 2024 Quality of Life Changes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:11 pm 
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I'm not sure if this is an appropriate place for it, but are there any plans to bring the Chaos Land Raider upgrade costs in line with the Loyalist ones?

The Chaos Marine lists all pay 75pt per Land Raider, while the Loyalist Marine lists get the option to buy pairs for 125pt. So CSM are paying more for their Land Raiders, without the benefit of TSKNF.

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Great work, good to see things maintained and improved

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:42 pm 
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IJW Wartrader wrote:
I'm not sure if this is an appropriate place for it, but are there any plans to bring the Chaos Land Raider upgrade costs in line with the Loyalist ones?

The Chaos Marine lists all pay 75pt per Land Raider, while the Loyalist Marine lists get the option to buy pairs for 125pt. So CSM are paying more for their Land Raiders, without the benefit of TSKNF.


No plans that I'm aware of. It should be noted that the loyalist have Rhinos/Drop pods baked into the cost of their formation while Chaos does not. It makes sense that loyalist Land Raider upgrades are cheaper because of this.

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Dave wrote:
No plans that I'm aware of. It should be noted that the loyalist have Rhinos/Drop pods baked into the cost of their formation while Chaos does not. It makes sense that loyalist Land Raider upgrades are cheaper because of this.


Yes and no. Even taking that into account, the loyalist Land Raider upgrades work out cheaper.

4 CSM Land Raiders at 75pt each, minus 4 CSM Rhinos at 10pt each = 260pt.

4 loyalist Land Raiders = 250pt.

CSM units typically run at 10-20% discount compared to their direct loyalist equivalents, so this one stands out as being a bit odd.

I’m not sure it’s a big issue, it just stood out when I was updated the Death Guard list, went to check some stuff in the Black Legion list for compatibility, and realised that I’d borrowed the price-per-pair bit from the Codex Astartes list not the Black Legion list!

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