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What would you do with Death Skulls?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:42 pm 
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I'm finally working on my E:A Ork army and find I'm sorely lacking in creativity.

It will be a combined clan army with each clan serving a specific role in the army, but with some overlap.

Goff- Infantry
Bad Moons- Guns and Walkers
Evil Suns- KOS & Blitz Brigades
Snake Bites- Mixed mobs (Inf., Squiggoths, Boars)
Blood Axe- Kommandos & Mixed mobs (based around this borrowed theme)

I'm happy with the distinct flavor of each clan except Death Skulls.

Other than giving them exclusively converted Imperial vehicles, I don't know how to make Death Skulls "characterful".  I'm really not even sure what color scheme to give them unless it's just mixed to look like it's "borrowed" from Imperials and other Orks.  What is the Death Skulls roll?

Any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:11 pm 
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Converted Imperial vehicles would fit better with Blood Axes because they copy the Imperium.  They steal, copy, and occasionally even trade with more disreputable human elements for Imperial vehicles.

Deth Skullz are lootas.  They would have salvaged and converted items.  That would include Imperial vehicles but not to the extent of BAs.  They could also use all sorts of stuff from other races.  They might have access to especially weird (for orks) technology.  Personally, I generally picture their stuff as particularly rickety or slapshod compared to other ork gear, but not necessarily low-tech.

They have no set color scheme except that they tend to like orkish "lucky blue."  That manifests both in warpaint/facepaint and in some vehicle color schemes.

Personally, my planned Deth Skull force theme is an orkish version of Jawas.  I have several warbands mounted in Battlefortresses which serve as mobile homes/salvage yards.  The forts will be topped by wood huts and have working bits like cranes hanging off the sides/back.  I may include some trailers filled with scrap metal to be towed behind.

As they are intended to the the scavengers following the Gargant Mobz, picking up pieces that fall off or are blown off in battle and selling them back to the gargant meks, I also have a Krawla Gargant (more mobile home/scrapyard) for them but that probably won't work for you.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:26 pm 
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Deathskulls blow (along with the Goffs)!  Exterminate them immediately.
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Neal, you are the Ork master!

That fortress idea is golden!  I've got plenty of crane booms and even some excavator shovels to stick on them.  Hope you don't mind if I "borrow" it.

For my Blood Axe, I was planning to use Imperial vehicles, but with limited conversions (still mostly intact).  The Death Skull stuff would be a complete hybrid of Ork and Imperial (to represent taking parts from wherever they could get them).  

I'll have to think about ways to include Eldar and maybe even Squat items as well.  

...hmmm, a Wraithbone Ork Dreadnought...

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Deathskulls blow (along with the Goffs)!  Exterminate them immediately.

Burn the heratik lads!  Use the big dakka on him!!  :p

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Yeah, if you don't like Goffs, who does the @$$ kicking in your mob?  Surely not those fancy boy Bad Moons.

And Death Skulls are just consciencious recyclers.

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Consectari:  "Borrow" away.  The point of the boards is to share ideas.

I saw a 40K conversion of a Falcon into a Battlewagon on a board somewhere.  It basically mounted the falcon on wheels and used the intakes on the falcon for jet engine intakes, with the engines sticking out the back for a jet-powered wagon.

I didn't think the execution was the greatest but I could definitely see that kind of hull salvage happening with Deth Skullz.

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With a mixure of klanz you should make sure the Goffz are in charge... its more fluffy as Goffz just wouldnt serv under an non-Goff WarBoss.. and a Goff Warboss wouldnt not take orders from anyone.
You neednt just have them infanty... they should also have a few ded ard warmachines... but make them krumpy... not shooty... so DefRollaz are a must.
Badmoons will have all the hi-tec shooty stuff... the best Ork-Tec that teef can buy. These guyz will be tooled up with heaps of ZzapGunz, Shootaz, KMB etc, thier vechiclez will be the most heavily armoured... and of couse... they will have the fanciest paintjobs.
Your Sunz should mainly consist of Bikez, trakkz n buggiez. Trukkz are ok but if you got Goffz in your Warband then they should be using them to deploy their boyz  deep into enermy linez whilst the Sunz race about shooting anything than moves.
DefSkullz use alot of looted vehicles and constuct their larger warmachines mostly from looted wreakz.
A DefSkull Russ would for example... run on four big wheelz... as the wreak they looted had completely smashed trakkz. On the other hand Blood Axe'z would use a standard Russ with a few Orky bitz added.
Where a BloodAxe would proudly kommand a BaneBlade... a DefSkull would have an equaly large Supa Evy tank constructed from a LandRaid, Russ, Rhino... and gork know wat else.

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Yeah, if you don't like Goffs, who does the @$$ kicking in your mob? ?Surely not those fancy boy Bad Moons.

And Death Skulls are just consciencious recyclers.

Bad Moonz but I've begun working on the Snakebites.
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(ruiza97 @ Jan. 09 2007,20:55)
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Yeah, if you don't like Goffs, who does the @$$ kicking in your mob?  Surely not those fancy boy Bad Moons.

And Death Skulls are just consciencious recyclers.

Bad Moonz but I've begun working on the Snakebites.

Well at least you've got some ork in you, not like those poncy pointy ears players  :;):  

Mind you I cant speak- im a blood axe player, the most un orklike of the lot!!

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On another note, ive made a  lot of conversions for my bloodaxes that are  more in line with what Kroozer is talking about for death skull conversions.  Lots of chopped up marine tanks (got a glut of them and was really bored of straight marine vehicles.)  Have a look

EDIT- sorry the pics are dark- hope you can get the idea




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Neal has the D/Skullz right IMO. They are the biggest looters in Orkdom ! In the old full they painted their faces blue and/or had blue tattoos.  Of my 36 Ork Warbands (SM1 MTO&Es), D/Skullz and Blood Axes are the most numerous.  I've only got one Goff WarBand ! :)

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(J0k3r @ Jan. 09 2007,23:41)
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(consectari @ Jan. 09 2007,16:26)
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Yeah, if you don't like Goffs, who does the @$$ kicking in your mob? ?Surely not those fancy boy Bad Moons.

And Death Skulls are just consciencious recyclers.

Bad Moonz but I've begun working on the Snakebites.

Well at least you've got some ork in you, not like those poncy pointy ears players ?:;): ?

Mind you I cant speak- im a blood axe player, the most un orklike of the lot!!

Blood Axes and Snakebites are my favorite clans. ?Followed by the Bad Moonz and Evil Sunz. ?Goffs and Deathskulls... well, the less said the better.
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(ruiza97 @ Jan. 10 2007,00:09)
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Yeah, if you don't like Goffs, who does the @$$ kicking in your mob?  Surely not those fancy boy Bad Moons.

And Death Skulls are just consciencious recyclers.

Bad Moonz but I've begun working on the Snakebites.

Well at least you've got some ork in you, not like those poncy pointy ears players  :;):  

Mind you I cant speak- im a blood axe player, the most un orklike of the lot!!

Blood Axes and Snakebites are my favorite clans.  Followed by the Bad Moonz and Evil Sunz.  Goffs and Deathskulls... well, the less said the better.

I think my favourite after the blood axes (which I like for the perverted WWII feel) has to be evil sunz.  In fact my blood axe army has a large KOS kontingent and is mainly mechanised.  After all getting there is half the fun...

In all honesty ive  never really liked the goffs either-  even in the SM2 era days I thought there was something kind of dull about them.  Not erratic or quirky enough.  Sure they can stomp people good and hard, but lacking in humour.  

As for deathskulls I liked them under the SM2 rules where they were master makers of wierd weapons like the shokk attack gun.  how much more humour can you get than tellyporting deranged snotlings into a terminator suit  :devil:

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I think it was "intalekshools" like Thorp and Woods who put all the emphasis on Goffs.  In the SM2 days and under NetEpic the Bad Moons, Evil Suns and Blood Axes are far more flavourful.

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Thanks for the pics J0k3r, some very inspiring ideas.  

Personally, I like all the clans.  They each have a niche in Orky society.  That's why I decided to have a combined army.  I wanted all the flavors.  I just couldn't find enough to go on for the Death Skulls.  I wanted to give them more of an impact than just cobbled together vehicles.  

I know Orks view Blood Axe as un-Orky, but to me, it seems the very height of low cunning to use the enemies own vehicles against them.  Plus the "Blood Orks Chapta" I "borrowed" is just a perfect way to p!$$ off the Blood Angels  

If anything, I'm slightly less a fan of Bad Moons, only because I hate the color yellow.

Now, how do I put wheels on an Epic scale Russ?!

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