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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:29 pm 
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GW/US has announced their latest round of price changes.  While a good thing for players of the core games -- a lot of the battleforce and battalion sets are coming down in price -- the picture is grim for Epic.

A sampling of price changes for Epic blisters (I apologize for the formatting -- I don't know how to make IB Code do tables or tabbed spaces):

Code                Description                  Old Price      New Price

99060301019   EPIC MARINE DREADS      $8.00          $10.00
99060303026   EPIC ORK DREADS/KANS   $8.00          $10.00
99060305023   EPIC IG FIRE SUPPORT     $9.00          $12.00
99060303025   EPIC ORK SOOPA GUNZ    $10.00         $15.00
99060303030   EPIC ORK DETH KOPTAS   $10.00         $15.00
99060305027   EPIC IG VALKYRIES          $10.00         $15.00
99060305032   EPIC IG GRIFFONS           $10.00         $15.00
99060305033   EPIC IG DEATHSTRIKES    $10.00         $15.00
99060305040   IMPERIAL GUARD CHARA   $10.00         $15.00
99060307006   EPIC IMP MARAUDERS      $10.00         $15.00
99060301017   EPIC MARINE SCOUTS      $13.00         $17.00
99060301018   EPIC MARINE TERMNTRS   $13.00         $17.00
99060301022   EPIC MARINE SPEEDERS    $13.00         $17.00
99060301023   EPIC MARINE RZRBKS       $15.00         $17.00
99060303019   ORK FLAK WAGONS          $13.00         $17.00
99060303020   ORK BATTLEWAGON         $13.00         $17.00
99060303022   ORK BUGGIES & SCORCH   $13.00         $17.00
99060303027   EPIC ORK BTLFRTRESS      $13.00         $17.00
99060303033   ORK GUNFORTRESS          $13.00          $17.00
99060303034   ORK GUNWAGONS            $13.00          $17.00
99060303039   FERAL ORK SQUIGGOTH     $13.00         $17.00
99060303040   ORK CHARACTER PACK      $13.00         $17.00
99060301020   EPIC MARINE BIKES          $15.00         $20.00
99060301021   SM THUNDERHAWK GUN    $15.00         $20.00
99060301024   EPIC MARINE VNDCTRS     $15.00         $20.00
99060303029   EPIC ORK WARBIKES         $15.00         $20.00
99060303032   ORK LANDA                     $15.00         $20.00
99060305039   IG SIEGE ART BATTERY     $10.00         $20.00
99060301013   SPACE MARINE RHINOS     $20.00         $22.00
99060303024   EPIC ORK BIG GUNZ          $20.00         $22.00
99060303037   FERAL ORK JUNKATRUKK    $10.00         $22.00
99060305035   EPIC IG VULTURES           $20.00         $22.00
99060305041   IG: RAGNAROK TANK        $15.00         $22.00
99060307003   EPIC IMP THNDRBLT         $20.00         $22.00
99060307004   IMP WARHOUND TITAN M  $20.00         $22.00

Hey, GW... WHY DO YOU HATE US???

I could see some adjustment made to reflect energy costs and so forth, but some of these just seem vindictive.  Did some Epic player piss in Tom Kirby's corn flakes or something?  Did he get beat up as a child by micro-armor jocks?  I'm at a loss.  3 Ragnaroks for $15 was pretty well outside the bounds of reality, but 3 for $22?  And the Junkatrukks... if you need me, I'll be curled up under my desk, crying softly.

Thank God for eBay and Chaosorc.





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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:35 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:42 pm 
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Wow, how can they rationalize 50% or more jumps in price?!  It's utterly insane.

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50%?  Hell, the Siege Arty went up 100%.

They are out of their ever-lovin' minds.  They're losing market share and revenue, so they think they can make it up with price hikes?  Insane.

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Yep and I am just insane for saying Epic is heading down the great big porcelain swirl.  :/

- Forgeworld takes epic out of the catalog
- SG stops posting updates to the vault even when Champions have said they have emails showing the new version were accepted.
- Prices going out of bounds for most people

Yah, I am just a doom sayer.

The next Epic Dark Ages is comming and we need to accept it.

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Oh and one other thing:

>>99060305041   IG: RAGNAROK TANK        $15.00         $22.00

Old Glory 15mm Miniature #CD-406  KV-2 (3 / pack)  $18.40

More materials in one 15mm mini then in all three Ragnarok's combines.

What a rip off, those damb dorks.

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:22 pm 
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Oh this is just way too funny... I'm sorry but it is gents.

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Come next annual report I can already see the politely phrased pissing and moaning by GW about how even less independent stockists are carrying their products and therefore the margins on them have decreased and theres even less point in allowing non-GW stores to carry their products.

Given I've yet to see them in the last 4 years manage to connect cause and effect successfully I'd bet money thats the way it's going to play out.

The only downside to this is that unlike last time when Epic went under at GW this time theres no one carrying the figs so I doubt you'll see deals like you did previously as people blow them out.

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Well, this is sad. ?:down:

Although, from what I can tell, these "new" prices are the prices we French players have always had to pay since these models' release.

At 7,5? ($10) for a Siege Arty pack, I'd have bought them instead of converting them. But it's always been 15? ($20) here in France, which is a rip-off. You had it good in the US and you didn't even know it!

It seems GW is simply "harmonizing" their prices once again. How stupid can they be not to see they're shooting themselves in the foot? :angry:

Unless of course, they just want to get rid of Epic and make maximum profit before it dies... ????






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Even though GWs prices are high ?:oops: ?a lot of the old prices shown are a lot less than the UK equivelant


99060305027 ? EPIC IG VALKYRIES ? ? ? ? ?$10.00 ? ? ? ? $15.00
99060305032 ? EPIC IG GRIFFONS ? ? ? ? ? $10.00 ? ? ? ? $15.00
99060305033 ? EPIC IG DEATHSTRIKES ? ?$10.00 ? ? ? ? $15.00
99060305040 ? IMPERIAL GUARD CHARA ? $10.00 ? ? ? ? $15.00
99060307006 ? EPIC IMP MARAUDERS ? ? ?$10.00 ? ? ? ? $15.00

are all ?7 here

99060301017 ? EPIC MARINE SCOUTS ? ? ?$13.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00
99060301018 ? EPIC MARINE TERMNTRS ? $13.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00
99060301022 ? EPIC MARINE SPEEDERS ? ?$13.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00
99060301023 ? EPIC MARINE RZRBKS ? ? ? $15.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00

are all ?9 or ?10 here

99060303019 ? ORK FLAK WAGONS ? ? ? ? ?$13.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00
99060303020 ? ORK BATTLEWAGON ? ? ? ? $13.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00
99060303022 ? ORK BUGGIES & SCORCH ? $13.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00
99060303027 ? EPIC ORK BTLFRTRESS ? ? ?$13.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00
99060303033 ? ORK GUNFORTRESS ? ? ? ? ?$13.00 ? ? ? ? ?$17.00
99060303034 ? ORK GUNWAGONS ? ? ? ? ? ?$13.00 ? ? ? ? ?$17.00
99060303039 ? FERAL ORK SQUIGGOTH ? ? $13.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00
99060303040 ? ORK CHARACTER PACK ? ? ?$13.00 ? ? ? ? $17.00

again these are all ?9 or ?10 here
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
99060305039 ? IG SIEGE ART BATTERY ? ? $10.00 ? ? ? ? $20.00
99060303037 ? FERAL ORK JUNKATRUKK ? ?$10.00 ? ? ? ? $22.00
99060305041 ? IG: RAGNAROK TANK ? ? ? ?$15.00 ? ? ? ? $22.00

These have always been ?10 here


It does look as if GW are bringing the prices into line with other countries ,that being very high :down:


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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:12 pm 
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To be fair, since picking up Epic again a couple of years ago I haven't given GW any money for anything from their Epic range.  A load of Chaos stuff came from fleaBay, Tau from Forgeworld and "Nids" from other manufacturer's ranges.  I haven't even bought a rulebook.  The only cash they have seen from me is bits from the core range that I have used for conversions and for the late lamented Fanatic magazine - neither of which will be directly atributable to Epic.

The more observent reader will have noticed that the money thay have lost out on was from models that they don't produce because there isn't a market...  I don't suppose it will be long before I crack and buy some stuff from DRM.

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I can hardly find the words to express my thoughts. Well, that's one way to prove that nobody's buying epic, raise the f****** prices. :angry: I can't believe GW doubled some of the prices. :angry:

It looks to my like we're on the precipice of the next Epic Dark Age. :angry:

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Quote (colonel_sponsz @ 23 May 2006 (13:12))
and "Nids" from other manufacturer's ranges.

And which manufacturers would these be, then?  There seems to be a shortage of good 6mm bugs.

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Just for curiosities sake I went and looked up the price of bulk pewter.

R-92 from this site is probably a rough equivilant to the GW Brand Absurdium flavour of pewter...

http://rotometals.com/Babbitts_and_Pewter_Alloys.htm

And I think it's probably a safe assumption that GW is buying in lots of more than 10 pounds at a time.

So... in the case of the Ragnaroks theres maybe what? 3 ounces of metal in them at the outside?

Even allowing for trying to amortize the costs of the molds and account for labour... in the immortal words of Elmer Fudd "Thewes something scwewey going on awound hewe..."

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Quote (dafrca @ 23 May 2006 (13:54))
Yep and I am just insane for saying Epic is heading down the great big porcelain swirl. ?:/

- Forgeworld takes epic out of the catalog
- SG stops posting updates to the vault even when Champions have said they have emails showing the new version were accepted.
- Prices going out of bounds for most people

Yah, I am just a doom sayer.

The next Epic Dark Ages is comming and we need to accept it.

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If you are a "doomsayer", what does that make me?

The freaking horseman of the apocolypse?  :;):

Meh, I said it all along that it would come to this. The insane prices are the last thing just before epic goes out of print....

...again.....

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Quote (Heresiarch @ 23 May 2006 (14:22))
:laugh:

Oh this is just way too funny... I'm sorry but it is gents.

:laugh:

Come next annual report I can already see the politely phrased pissing and moaning by GW about how even less independent stockists are carrying their products and therefore the margins on them have decreased and theres even less point in allowing non-GW stores to carry their products.

Given I've yet to see them in the last 4 years manage to connect cause and effect successfully I'd bet money thats the way it's going to play out.

The only downside to this is that unlike last time when Epic went under at GW this time theres no one carrying the figs so I doubt you'll see deals like you did previously as people blow them out.

Hi!

Until GW takes MAJOR hits in their profit line (which they seem to be in the inital stages), and they re-assess their whole business model, epic will remain in the toilet.

Until the day that new golden age arrives... if ever....

... we wait.....

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