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Differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis
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Author:  Magnus [ Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis
Since I'm getting no replies on the subject from the NetEpic group, I'm trying here as well, to close this research for the Hardware book.

I'm looking for conclusive info about eventual differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis. In short, I'd like to know if the minis currently available are the same as those sold in the E:40K blisters or are new moulds.

"Conclusive info" means either you own both versions or you've seen them firsthand. Comparing the 1998 Annual with the bits version displayed in the US store, my feeling is that basically almost all the pieces are different, barring the fliers. I'd like to be sure, though.
Also, do the new models come in fixed configurations or do they sport a modular design like the E:40K ones?

Here's a brief list of models in doubt:

IG:

Baneblade
Basilisk
Bombard
Chimera
Deathstrike
Griffon
Hellhound
Hydra
Leman Russ (normal, Demolisher, Vanquisher)
Manticore
Sentinel
Shadowsword

SM:

Bike (normal and Attack)
Dreadnought
Land Speeder
Razorback
Whirlwinds


Thanks for any info.
Author:  Justiniel [ Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis
Not entirely sure but here's my take:

IG:

Baneblade - same but plain variant
Basilisk - enclosed cockpit variety
Chimera - same but plain variant
Hydra - I think the radar thing has gone.
Leman Russ (normal, Demolisher, Vanquisher)
Shadowsword - same but plain variant

SM:

Bike (normal and Attack) - I think these are the same
Razorback - new, with automated weapons rather than SM gunner
Whirlwinds - new (note that anything based on the rhino chassis has been changed to the new.
Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis
Most of the Imperial stuff is E40k with minor modifications. I only bought a squadron of Hellhounds and Chimeras so those are the only "first hand" models I can talk about.
The E:A modles come in two pieces Hull and turret. The mmodles are based on the "version 1" (plain version) of the E40k modles ie. the ones with the least stowage added.
Some areas (like the hellhound fuel tanks) have has a bit of green stuff added in some recesses to make them castable ad one piece moodels. This means that some detail is lost on a few models.

In conclusion the basic design is the same but the way they are cast is slightly different. Some modles hhave got new models;  these are the ones I know of (and I'm 99% sure)

Baneblade -same
Basilisk - New
Bombard - same
Chimera - same (100%)
Deathstrike - same
Griffon - same
Hellhound - same (100%)
Hydra - same
Leman Russ (normal, Demolisher, Vanquisher) - same
Manticore - Same
Sentinel - new
Shadowsword - same

SM:

Bike (normal and Attack) New bike based on the attack bike with only the hole for the side car filled in. Attack bike is the same model.
Dreadnought - Same
Land Speeder - New
Razorback - New
Whirlwinds - new


I hope this helps.
Cheers! :)
Author:  Legion 4 [ Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis
Yep !  IIRC, You guys got it right !  Since I own most (98%) of all Epic models since SM1.  I only ordered the new E:A stuff !  Even the SM C-pack has few of the E40K figs, unmodified.  Some just a skull added, etc !     :D
Author:  dafrca [ Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis
Quote (Legion 4 @ 14 2004 Dec.,07:39)
Even the SM C-pack has few of the E40K figs, unmodified. ?Some just a skull added, etc ! ? ? :D

That is GW's style. Take a mini, change the helmet, add a new marking of some sort, and sell it as a new character you just need to have.  :L

dafrca
Author:  Jimbo [ Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis
don't forget to double or treble the price...

:p
Author:  Tas [ Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:39 am ]
Post subject:  Differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis
Quote (dafrca @ 16 2004 Dec.,05:18)
Quote (Legion 4 @ 14 2004 Dec.,07:39)
Even the SM C-pack has few of the E40K figs, unmodified. ?Some just a skull added, etc ! ? ? :D

That is GW's style. Take a mini, change the helmet, add a new marking of some sort, and sell it as a new character you just need to have. ?:L

dafrca

Yep - and look at how successful thats been in the last 15 years. ?Hard to argue with how far they have come since Warhammer 1st ed and Citadel.

Remember their primary target audence is the neophyte "dependant gamers' (who havent seen one before msotly) and not us older "independant gamers" (who usually have a couple of each variant in our collections).

Sorry to go OT there Magnus... ?:L
Author:  Legion 4 [ Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:31 am ]
Post subject:  Differences between E:40K and E:A imperial minis
Was just working on my SM C-packs tonight ! :D
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