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Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:01 pm ]
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Battle of five armies is now available in the UK online store
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefr....=300808
Sorry if this is old news. What puzzles me a bit is that it is releassed as a boxed set. I thought SG couldn't afford to do that anymore... I suppose it has been in the works for quite a while but it is stilll a bit odd that SG releases a brand new game with 5 core armies to complete when Epic is beiing put on hold. Oh well. It still looks pretty cool.

Does anyone know if it  is based on the Warmaster engine or an entirely new rules set?

Cheers!  :)
Author:  netepic [ Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:12 pm ]
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It is based on the warmaster engine. The specialist games guys are supporting it, but didn't develop it.
Author:  Freshmetal [ Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:23 pm ]
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Hi,

It'll be interesting to see who they blame if sales aren't great then.  ???

I like the look of some of the units, especially the Storm Giant. I may pick up a few to add to my Warmaster stuff, but I doubt I'll buy the game unless someone convinces me its worthwhile after playing it.

If anyone who picks it up could post a review it would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Freshmetal
Author:  primarch [ Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:44 pm ]
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Hi!

It seems anything with teh SG label is getting a bad rap due to lackluster support.

Oh well, thats the GW way nowadays....

Primarch
Author:  stormseer [ Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:06 pm ]
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... and I would guess the reason they have the money to release it as a boxed set with plastics is because they (GW) get money from the LOTR license to do LOTR related stuff.. (also why they have released various LOTR plastics- I don't think they'd have done the Murmak otherwise...) or something like that. ???
Author:  stormseer [ Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:11 pm ]
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*feel free to correct me, I'm only going on what I've gleaned from the internet!  :p
Author:  wargame_insomniac [ Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:38 pm ]
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I bought quite a few GW LOTR figures as I really liked the models. However battle of 5 armies just does n't do it for me. Then again I never got into Warmaster. Maybe if they had more tanks and titans....
:D
Cheers

James
Author:  Jimbo [ Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:18 pm ]
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Quote (stormseer @ 25 2005 Jan.,20:06)
... and I would guess the reason they have the money to release it as a boxed set with plastics is because they (GW) get money from the LOTR license to do LOTR related stuff.. (also why they have released various LOTR plastics- I don't think they'd have done the Murmak otherwise...) or something like that. ???

It should be noted that GW get NO money for the LOTR licence and actually had to pay arm over fist for the licence.

They had to pay shedloads for it.

They then hope to make it back by selling LOTR stuff.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:53 am ]
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I'm going to buy it just for the Hills & Ruins !  Would work good with Epic !  G/W US Troll said it should be available in late Feb-Mar in the US. :D  I'll sell the rest !  :;):
Author:  Mojarn Piett [ Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:44 am ]
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I'm planning to use the figs in my 10mm Warhamer Fantasy armies.  :;):

If I bought comparable Warmaster figs separately it would cost:
4 Packs of Goblins: ?24
4 Packs of Wolf Riders: ?24
4 Packs of Wargs (dire wolves): ?24
1 pack of Men with Bows (Bretonnian Bowmen): ?6
1 pack of Men with Spears (Bretonnian men at arms): ?6
2 packs of Dwarf Warriors: ?12
2 packs of Elves: ?12
2 Packs of elves with bows: ?12
3 packs of Giant Eagles: ?18

TOTAL: ?138. And add to that the scenery...

Of course, WM figs are metal while the Five Armies figs are plastic, but still.
:;):
Author:  Justiniel [ Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:52 am ]
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There goes my pocket money for this month :D , I'm a sucker for all things LOTR and have lots of the '28mm' figs, most of which are really nice but my favourites are still the old Mithril pieces. As I don't have Warmaster (yet :D ) I'll probably pick up this set and then go from there.....:p
Author:  stormseer [ Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:20 pm ]
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Hmm.. okay, guess it was worthwhile adding me disclaimer then.... :D

lol.... but they are contractually obliged to produce a certain amount of LOTR stuff while they hold the licence, are they not? ???
Author:  Jimbo [ Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:17 pm ]
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I don't know the details, but I would suspect (from my knowledge of merchandising) that they are not contractually obliged to produce anything, but are obliged to pay the Tolkien Estate and New Line Cinema a lot of money. The licence will allow them to do certain things, but not others. For example they can produce games and miniatures, but are now allowed to produce t-shirts for example.

There are a few cases I have heard of where someone holds the licence for something but has not actually produced it for a variety of reasons.

It should be noted that GW have two licences, one from New Line for stuff related to the films, such as the Mumakil already mentioned, and one from the Tolkien Estate for stuff from the books (not in the films) such as the Five Armies game about to be released.
Author:  pixelgeek [ Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:20 pm ]
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Quote (Jimbo @ 26 2005 Jan.,05:17)
but are obliged to pay the Tolkien Estate and New Line Cinema a lot of money.

The BoFA game is a liscence from the Tolkein Estate and has nothing to do with New Line.

Probably not much of a difference really but one side effect is that GW has, I would think, more latitude to make their own design decision about figures etc.

Still must cost them a bunch though
Author:  Legion 4 [ Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:15 pm ]
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Just talked to the G/W US Troll. Bo5A should be available in the US March 12/05 ... in case anyone was wondering... ? ? :;):
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