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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase)  Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:43 am |
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| Quote (Jimbo @ 15 Jan. 2006 (14:02)) | I really enjoyed the films.
I think the books work if you don't have much of an imagination, otherwise Tokien can be a little too descriptive without letting you imagine how you think it would look.
I do realise some people love the books, personally I found them overly detailed and descriptive.
I love the films. RotK was certainly worth it for the battle scenes alone. |
Hi!
We think alike. I enjoy the books, but he is somewhat verbose.
For me the LORT rings movies are perhaps the best fantasy movies ever made.
The battle scenes are superb.
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:54 am |
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I think it will be a long, long time before they are replaced as the leading fantasy movies
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:57 pm |
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| Quote (Tas @ 15 Jan. 2006 (21:54)) | | I think it will be a long, long time before they are replaced as the leading fantasy movies |
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I agree. taken together its the best ever made. They elevated the bar quite high.
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:59 pm |
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Agree totally, magnificient movies!
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:02 pm |
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| Quote (primarch @ 16 Jan. 2006 (14:57)) | | Quote (Tas @ 15 Jan. 2006 (21:54)) | | I think it will be a long, long time before they are replaced as the leading fantasy movies |
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I agree. taken together its the best ever made. They elevated the bar quite high.
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I concur. As much as I complain about the changes from book to movie, LOTR has raised the bar for fantasy movies. The battle scenes are AMAZING!
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:42 pm |
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Yep. The battle scenes are the reason I'll most likely end up buying the 3 movie DVD set.
But I doubt The Return of the King is better than the Fellowship of the ring. 
One more thing to say for the mr. Jackson; he sure knows how to pick the scenery. I must confess the misty mountains and especially the Shire were IMO _exactly_ as they should be. 
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:47 pm |
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I agree about the scenery, Pete Jackson certainly knows how to pick it. I remember sitting in the theater, watching Gandalf drive his cart over the hill into The Shire and, like you, I thought, this is exactly what the Shire looks like! What I found very interesting was that a year before filming, he had new plants planted so that they would be fully grown a year later to blend in well with existing vegetation.
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:22 pm |
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Hi Guys,
Peter Jackson did a better job with the Tolkien novels than anyone else has to date and...
He clearly is a genius at picking beautiful locations and the like, but...
He really needs to learn the editing part of filmmaking to greater breadth. All of his films could have been just as viable with far less footage was included.
One of my nephews and I saw "King Kong" yesterday adn that film could have greatly benefitted from losing and hour to an hour and a half of superfluous footage. I felt the same way about Return Of the King.
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:38 pm |
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| Quote (Hena @ 16 Jan. 2006 (17:35)) | Hmpf. Am I ?the only one who think that the longer the better? Well perhaps 3.5 hours is starting to push it but 3h is still good. Actually I'm usually happier with a little longer movies  .
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I tend to prefer longer movies, too, but there is such a thing as a movie being too long. I haven't seen King Kong either, but a friend told me that at least half an hour could easily have been omitted without detracting from the film.
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:04 am |
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| Quote (Dwarf Supreme @ 16 Jan. 2006 (14:47)) | | I agree about the scenery, Pete Jackson certainly knows how to pick it. I remember sitting in the theater, watching Gandalf drive his cart over the hill into The Shire and, like you, I thought, this is exactly what the Shire looks like! What I found very interesting was that a year before filming, he had new plants planted so that they would be fully grown a year later to blend in well with existing vegetation. |
Hmm. I guess the advantage of a location like New Zealand is that most people will not recognise it, and it looks exotic. It was weird for us New Zealanders though.
The shire looks like a typical Northland sheep farm taken over by hobbits.
Rohan looks like Castle Rock Hill down the road from where I live.
etc.
I think I've said it before, but it often felt like I was watching a bunch of Live Action Roleplayers running through my backyard
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:01 am |
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must ...restrain...from making comments....on weird and NZ....in the same sentence
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:57 am |
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| Quote (MaksimSmelchak @ 16 Jan. 2006 (17:22)) | Peter Jackson did a better job with the Tolkien novels than anyone else has to date and...
He clearly is a genius at picking beautiful locations and the like, but...
He really needs to learn the editing part of filmmaking to greater breadth. All of his films could have been just as viable with far less footage was included.
One of my nephews and I saw "King Kong" yesterday adn that film could have greatly benefitted from losing and hour to an hour and a half of superfluous footage. I felt the same way about Return Of the King. |
Hmm, Kong is about an hour longer than it needs to be. There's nothing wrong with taking time to set up and establish characters, but not if they suddenly vanish from the film before the third act. Also, some of the action sequences are a bit too long.
Having said that, Jackson can come up with some spectacular, breath-taking and beautiful shots. I love the way the camera swoops round the top of the Empire State Building during the finale of Kong, taking in the gorgeous sun-rise and the expanse of New York. There's a similarly breath-taking shot in RotK, when Denethor runs from the very top of Minas Tirith having set himself alight, and the camera follows him to the precipice - and as he plummets, pulls back to show the expanse of Minas Tirith and the horde of Orcs beseiging it; whilst Denethor falls, a small flaming speck in the midst of it all.
Anyone who appreciates what goes in making films knows that that's quite an impressive trick to do with the camera!
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Post subject: LOTR Films (was Epic price increase) Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:24 am |
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| Quote (Hena @ 16 Jan. 2006 (17:35)) | | Hmpf. Am I the only one who think that the longer the better? Well perhaps 3.5 hours is starting to push it but 3h is still good. Actually I'm usually happier with a little longer movies . |
No. I prefer extended versions too. But the general trend seems to be towards shorter movies with non-stop action from start to finish. 
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