nowhere near 8,000 pounds. devastators are cheaper than ever now, with each box set able to fill two squads. Veterans need not be any special models, simply a white helmet and bam, you're set. So let's look at this, and some future releases, shall we?
for 3000 pounds you get 10 commanders, 10 sets of command squad guys, that includes 10 company champions, 10 apothecaries, 10 standard bearers, and 20 veteran marines, as designated by special bolters and other bits. Also in there is 600 space marines, all in 10 man squads, each 10 man squad with the option for many, many special weapons from the plasma gun to rocket launchers, and multi-meltas ahoy! Also, with the massive number of bits left in the command and commander sprues, you have even more options, as the commander comes with enough bits to fill out a squad. Next is the Assault squads. 200 of these buggers, and again, lots of extra bits. 200 should be enough for the companies that need it, and any extras can be bought by purchasing the 10-pack assault pack set for 5 pounds. Devastators will give you 200 marines, but wait! with the new plastics you can, in all actuality give 500 marines devastator weaponry, which is enough to fill out EVERY tactical squad you have. That, asn the devastator squad comes with so many bits you can continue to fill out your first company even more, servo skills, banners, and goodies for everyone. You'd also get 10 razorbacks and 80 rhinos. Land raiders are not taken by every chapter, and if you are using the create-a-chapter rules, this alone can get you completely through a chapter. Lets say you want terminators and scouts though. With Apocalypse Reload coming out, we have several more options. What options you may ask? Well for 100 pounds you can have 35 terminators as well as a terminator commander. that bumps it up to 3100 pounds. need scouts? wait for the scout force, it'll bump you up by almost 150 more but it will give you the 10th company worth of scouts. so sure, you're up to 3,250 pounds, and you have no land raiders nor landspeeders. the rumour mill hints at a apocalypse set with nothing but vehicles coming out rather soon. There's also the new introductory box set, it comes with 20 marines, 10 terminators, a dreadnought, and a commander for 70 bucks. Oh, and over 30 ork models including a deffkopta. Sure, it's 45 pounds, but if you split it with a friend, it's an amazing deal. the only catch is it's all sculpted with ultramarines icons and whatnot. oh well.
Also remember, epic is nice and tiny, things go fast. When you have 5000 points in 40k, it;s gonna be a game that lasts for a day at the least, if not stretched out through several. It's apples and oranges, man. don't even try.
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