Just so I don't take a lose ... I good ...
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| Author: | silentbob27 [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:29 am ] |
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So I am currently going through a potential trade when the other party asks what items would constitute a fair trade. This got me thinking about what a fair trade is. With my local gaming buddies, I know their armies about as well as mine, so I have a basis for value. Here in the interwebs I am at a bit of a loss. An item I have that may be worth little to me (in attachment or monetary value) may be of great value to somebody else (complete collection/always wanted/basis for a killer conversion) and vice versa. So I find myself worrying (probably needlessly) about insulting the party with a value I consider fair. Usually I try to give better than I get, but that is just me being me. I know this is a whole part of the bartering game, the going back an forth with offers, but damn it is taking a bit of time for me to wrap my head around. Anyone have any suggestions or is this just a matter for me to work out personally? |
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Fair Trades |
Just so I don't take a lose ... I good ...
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| Author: | zap123 [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Fair Trades |
I generally just make an offer I think is ok and make it clear that I'm open to counters. Sometimes it's easy to reach agreement, sometimes there'll be some to'ing and fro'ing, and sometimes peoples relative values are so different that you never end up making a deal. This can even be item by item. I've traded tons of stuff here, but there are some bits I've had up for trade for ages that are in demand, but no one's made an offer I consider fair...so I still gots 'em 
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| Author: | Erik M [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Fair Trades |
Yeah, good sum ups. L4 is good and zap got stuff.  Anyhow... I start with the basic "GW shop price" and then add rarity or specialty. Sometimes it can even be a lower price due to no demand what so ever. Often it's however same same and different. My thing is as much as your thing, as we both want to change. |
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| Author: | Otterman [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fair Trades |
Curious that Zap should post on this topic. When he and I (and Consectari as well) used to barter, we would quantify things in 'tank equivalents'. Items that we felt were more valuable would have a higher 'tank equivalent' cost. For example, an Ordinatus might be worth 8 TE, and 3 modern Rhinos might be worth 2 TE. This helps get rid of currency conversions and quibbling over exact dollar/pound/euro/whatever amounts. |
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| Author: | Dwarf Supreme [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fair Trades |
I tend to use the original retail price of a mini to determine its worth to me, except for rare OOP minis, in which case its value will probably rise depending on what it is. |
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| Author: | Tertius [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fair Trades |
"we would quantify things in 'tank equivalents'. Items that we felt were more valuable would have a higher 'tank equivalent' cost. For example, an Ordinatus might be worth 8 TE, and 3 modern Rhinos might be worth 2 TE." The Tank Equivalentis my new favorite unit of measure. I have always measured the opportunity cost of buying accessories, like terrain, dice, etc., against the question of "How many tanks will this prevent me from buying?" A similar concept, really, but one without a name, until now. Thanks Otterman. Now for a convenient symbol like "$". |
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| Author: | Erik M [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fair Trades |
As it came from our favourite male watery mammal... € ? (As in pylon...) |
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| Author: | zap123 [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Fair Trades |
Quote: (Otterman @ 16 Mar. 2009, 13:57 ) Curious that Zap should post on this topic. When he and I (and Consectari as well) used to barter, we would quantify things in 'tank equivalents'. Items that we felt were more valuable would have a higher 'tank equivalent' cost. For example, an Ordinatus might be worth 8 TE, and 3 modern Rhinos might be worth 2 TE. This helps get rid of currency conversions and quibbling over exact dollar/pound/euro/whatever amounts. Those were some pretty massive trades, so the "tank equivalent" was the best way to wrap my head around relative values. I think at one point I posted well over a kilogram of Epic stuff to Consectari 
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