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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:55 pm 
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On a curoius note where can I read the background to the traveller universe wihout buying the books?

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Quote (MaksimSmelchak @ 27 Jan. 2006 (20:06))
Hi James,
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Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 27 Jan. 2006 (18:51))
I look forward to seeing if M/S can come up with anything good with Planetfall-Dune.


It'll be down the road a ways. I'm concentrating my efforts on Traveller and might let myself have the distractions of giant monsters / kaiju and possibly a Star Wars Endor jungle battle or some other good Star Wars battle that gives me an excuse to build something other than snow vehicles.

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Hi M/S

A bit off-topic for this thread so I'll keep it brief. I know you like the smaller scale for doing Star Wars but with the number of models now released by WoTC for Star Wars minis maybe you should scale up.  Now they have done an AT-AT, and that is a chunky piece of resin/plastic (18" wide x 14" high x 7" deep :wow: ), I think I will stick to that scale.

Plus you have Luke on Tauntaun, Stormtrooper on Dewback, Tusken Raider on Bantha, , Stormtroopers/Rebel Speeders and  AT-ST's from the original trilogy. And Darth Maul on Speeder,  Hailfire Droids and AT-RT's from newer trilogy.

Next release is called "Attack on Endor" and will feature AT-ST in jungle camo.

Sorry for that brief interlude- back to Dune....
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Hello, only just picked up on this thread.  Loved Dune as a novel, alhtough I wasn't paying much attention to it from a military/wargaming perspective as I was concentrating hard to understand the universe which Herbert plunges you in to! ???  Anyway, he tends to gloss over action, focusing upon characters.

I've watched the film, found it a bit dull.  Have wanted to check out the miniseries.  As for the other books (Children... on wards and the prequels) I've not read (well I started Children... and couldn't get in to it!

As far as gaming, I think it could suit itself to either 6mm or 28mm.  Skirmishes between sardaukar and shielded House Atreides nobles in the latter would be fun... and in the former we'd get the worms, which would be very cool indeed!

Sorry, I've not got much more to add constructively but will watch this thread with interest. :cool:


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Do those books provide anymore insight into our discusion here?

Ah yes, I dig them out and post a few things later this week.

Are there any new weapons sytems introdced that we didn't see in the orginal books?
Lots....! :D

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Well I look forward to seeing the details.  

I almost through the House Atreides book and I found the Space fighter training good to determining what weapon they have on their space ships.


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Hi James,

Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 29 Jan. 2006 (18:04))
Hi M/S

A bit off-topic for this thread so I'll keep it brief. I know you like the smaller scale for doing Star Wars but with the number of models now released by WoTC for Star Wars minis maybe you should scale up. ?Now they have done an AT-AT, and that is a chunky piece of resin/plastic (18" wide x 14" high x 7" deep :wow: ), I think I will stick to that scale.

Plus you have Luke on Tauntaun, Stormtrooper on Dewback, Tusken Raider on Bantha, , Stormtroopers/Rebel Speeders and ?AT-ST's from the original trilogy. And Darth Maul on Speeder, ?Hailfire Droids and AT-RT's from newer trilogy.

Next release is called "Attack on Endor" and will feature AT-ST in jungle camo.

Sorry for that brief interlude- back to Dune....
:blues:
Cheers

James


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Quote (firestorm40k @ 29 Jan. 2006 (20:48))
Hello, only just picked up on this thread. ?Loved Dune as a novel, alhtough I wasn't paying much attention to it from a military/wargaming perspective as I was concentrating hard to understand the universe which Herbert plunges you in to! ??? ?Anyway, he tends to gloss over action, focusing upon characters.

I've watched the film, found it a bit dull. ?Have wanted to check out the miniseries. ?As for the other books (Children... on wards and the prequels) I've not read (well I started Children... and couldn't get in to it!

As far as gaming, I think it could suit itself to either 6mm or 28mm. Skirmishes between sardaukar and shielded House Atreides nobles in the latter would be fun... and in the former we'd get the worms, which would be very cool indeed!

Sorry, I've not got much more to add constructively but will watch this thread with interest. :cool:


"Dune" would make a great skirmish game in 15mm, 20mm or 28mm, and...

I also agree that it has enough big battles to make a neat 6mm or 10mm game as well!

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Hi Luis,

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On a curoius note where can I read the background to the traveller universe wihout buying the books?
Thanks.



I'm going to respond to your Traveller inquiry on my blog here:

http://www.epic40k.co.uk/epicomm....y145849

I like to keep threads from drifting.

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[quoteWell I look forward to seeing the details.  [/quote]

Short list:
- Kindjals - fighers with anti-tank missiles
- Bombers
- Armour
- Cyborg/walkers
- Lots of big spacebattles
- Detail on tactics

...this caused me to started reading the Butlerian Jihad...again!

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interesting.

Thanks for the preview

I'm curoius you mention walkers and armor.  Does that mean the "Ever Slicing" lascannon wasn't avialable back in that period of the Dune universe?


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The Lascannon and other things like (uhm I could tell you but that would giva away too much story!) where invented during that period.

The walkers are used by the 'Computers'.

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Ok I understand.  I look forward to reading that book


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Hi Luis,

Just an FYI, the Butlerian Jihad was about establishing the place of robots in the Dune-iverse if I remember correctly.

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Cool!

I just finishhed reading the First house book.  I got a wargaming question maybe someone could help me in.

Some Spoilers may follow...












Ok When the atatck occuers in the highliner, Leto acitivates his Frigate's shields to stop everyone from fighting.  

Now this got me thinking.  If all large space craft have shields what weapons have to be used to fight in space.  All ships invulnable with shields or can the shields still be beaton down, similar to BFG.  

Would thye use laser weapons or other more conventional weapons.

Just thinking...


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