(Hena @ Dec. 11 2006,05:14)
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I noticed that you are using some modifications on marines. I haven't studied any french, but was pretty sure what the modifications were.
1. Vindicator. 25cm move and FF +1EA with ignore cover.
2. Attack Bike. 35cm move and Infantry. Something about basing ...
3. Dreadnoughts. Dreadnought formation 4 for 200.
4. Land Raiders. Cost 375.
I would like to ask why this set? And any comments that you would have on the set here (and why you prefer to use your own)
http://www.specialist-games.com/forum/t ... IC_ID=9464Also I remember that you commented that Tyranids were too good. I would like to hear more on that subject as well.
I can't answer for him, but I can comment on a couple of items:
The attack bikes were a subject of discussion some time ago, with the comment that they were not as good as regular Space Marine bikes. This was a problem in that they are direct, no-cost replacements; why take them if you are getting an inferior unit? The general consensus was that the addition of a side car was insufficient reason to change it from an INF to LV and reduce the speed from 35cm to 30cm. What other changes were agreed upon I don't remember, but I have it somewhere in my notes. I wasn't an active participant in the discussion, merely noted it for my records.
The Dreadnoughts were also a subject of discussion not long ago, with a lot of discussion about changes to the army list structure about how dreadnoughts were employed. While there were some dissenters, a majority of people, based upon perceived need and prior background material, seemed to want a dreadnought formation of 4 for 200 points. There was also talk of increasing their availability and of making them transportable in Land Raiders and/or Rhinos.
To be honest with you, I was surprised to see that these 2 items were not on your list.
My opinions, take them for what you will
Vindicators: I hate to say this, but when I run the numbers for Vindicators compared to the evenly priced Predators they come out equal. If people really want to increase the abilities of the Vindicators they need to increase the price for them also. My suggestion would be to leave the Demolisher Cannon alone and simply increase the speed of the Vindicator to match the Predator.
Land Raiders: The real problem of Land Raiders is that they are under-utilized in the force structure, in addition to being overpriced at 100 points/tank. I would suggest making them more available to other formations and allowing them to transport dreadnoughts. Another idea might be to make them DC1 war engines like the AMTL knights; they are rather sizable vehicles. Do a search, there was a significant discussion about these within the last year.