Legion 4 wrote:
The Chaos figures have been since SM1, SM2 and E40K.
L4, we're NOT claiming they sculpted NEW chaos figures for EA. They DID support and release a box set of chaos figures in EA however which is what YOU are claiming they didn't. In fact I have ALL the official documents from GW for Specialist Games EA stored (actually I have everything irrespective of version because like you, i started playing "epic" back in the AT days).
In this document which is the file they put out for the announcement for the release of EA chaos figure support they even state they were the older sculpts, "As well as the army lists we'll be
re-releasing the Epic Chaos Horde plastic set. This provides all of the rank and file troops a Chaos army will need, allowing the followers of the Dark Gods to command a suitably large and impressive horde of troops. In addition we're
re-releasing a limited range of metal models for unique units found in the Chaos army lists".
So basically your entire premise is that because you didn't bother to read the rules released for EA they didn't exist? Can I buy some pot off you, brother?
Legion4 wrote:
And the Tau were only produced by FW after SM2 and the only rules were in E40K. But there are no rules for either in the Official GW E:A Rule Books. There were rules for both in GW E40K.
Again, no one is claiming that Tau were ONLY made during the 4th edition timeframe. We are stating that they were for sale, during EA for EA purposes and no, you're 100% wrong that they didn't have EA rules: Imperial Armour Volume 3, The Tauros Campaign had full official support for Tau in Epic Armageddon. I'd give you a link but unlike the previous PDF, that was never a free publicly available document and I don't want to get TC in trouble with copyright violatations. I'm happy to privately supply a PDF you can read since you obviously don't believe me despite pointing out the book with the Tau rules in it not once but 3 times dude. At this point you're being obtuse.
Legion4 wrote:
Now if you are talking rule books from FW ... that is not what I'm referring too. I know Tau were only produced by FW but I'm completely unaware of new Chaos figures.
Yeah we know
you're NOT getting it. However you're claiming that Tau didn't have EA support. That's wrong. FW, an OFFICIAL GW SUBSIDIARY, was responsible for model/rules support for Tau ALWAYS.
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Legion4 wrote:
And No you're missing my "logic" ... There were 2 types of SMs produced during SM1. The 1st group only had Mk.VIs in one pose ... The next version had Mk.VIIs and Mk.VIs in many poses etc.. And both of those have been used all the way thru E40K.
No we're not missing that. We've been saying that all along. And actually you're wrong, the Marine infantry went all the way to the 4th edition as well. The marine infantry was NOT multi-pose, though they did make specialty figures (characters and the whatnot) which might be considered "another pose". The marines available in the AT era however were multipose figures (and far better models as well).
Legion4 wrote:
It was the same with Orks & Eldar. Two different sprue types with mixed sprue in the Epic Stomper box set.
But the Eldar got another new Sprue with SM2.
and went to the 4th edition as well (though reboxed and recut for re-release in 4th)
Legion4 wrote:
Chaos had two different sets of sprues the 1st in the waning days of SM1. And another around the TL time frame.
And another in the release of 3rd edition (which, again as we've been stating, was used re-release for 4th).
Legion4 wrote:
GW never made any Tau only FW ... And I didn't remember the FW rules for either Tau or Chaos. As by that time, didn't start collecting FW rule books ... and still don't ...
Yes and...? Is there a point other than you're claiming that Tau and Chaos didn't have 4th edition rules and model support despite we keep pointing out that is incorrect. Your admitted ignorance of the EA rules and lists does not change the reality that they BOTH had model and rule support in EA.
I'm not trying to sound harsh and have an argument but you simply are anf factually incorrect here man. Time to admit you're simply wrong because, as you state, "[you] didn't start collecting FW rule books" and "I was unware of the online rules" doesn't actually make you correct; It makes you ignorant of the facts. Sorry =/
edit: EA Tau => IA3, Tauros Campaign, section 5 - army lists, Tau in Epic Armageddon, pg 282