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The Return of Adeptus Titanicus

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:53 pm 
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Subscribe to play was a few pages back already ;)

Though I would hate to see such a thing for a GW miniature game, I for one don't think the freemium model of in app purchases is a blight (not per se anyway). I almost never actually pay, but that is my choice. Certainly it is fairer to the consumer than paying up front. If you don't want something, you don't have to buy it. Companies aren't obliged to give you software (which costs money to develop and maintain) for free.

The problem as ever is when the pricing is set at a level to annoy people, costs are "hidden" etc. There is a great sweet spot to be reached where the paid content is "non functional" (ie you don't gain an advantage over other players in the game) but sadly I don't see GW as being perceptive enough to hit it. Knowing them it'll be more like pay-per-rule ;)

Is it not also curious to bemoan the advent of something, if it does not take away what you already have. I can't imagine that notepads and pencils are going to be confiscated.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:59 pm 
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Oh and to add: I do hate the "DLC" system for video games but I respect the reasons for introducing it (ie to kill the second hand games market in an era when people still expect to be able to buy physical game discs). The reason I dislike it is simply because the reduction in value of a game (you can't flog it for as much when you finish with it) has not coincided with a commensurate reduction in price. If anything digital prices are often higher as they tend to be available through monopolies.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:53 am 
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Kyrt wrote:
Is it not also curious to bemoan the advent of something, if it does not take away what you already have. I can't imagine that notepads and pencils are going to be confiscated.


That isn't quite as straightforward as you suggest. For instance, the conditions behind certain 'living worlds' in a popular RPG I play (used to play?) necessitated online registering of characters, of campaigns by DMs, etc. etc. I've been 'locked out' of playing in game stores and organised play of one system already by this, so it wouldn't surprise me to see player advancement, XP rolls, skill rolls, 'legal' army lists for organised play, all being locked away.

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I don't know a thing about RPGs (I assume you mean a "real life" RPG rather than a video game?) but that sort of central registration does sound kinda necessary to coordinate a living world system. Is it that it didn't used to be a living world system, but has been added in a revision to the game and everywhere now plays this new system? I know it's OT but would be interested to learn more (maybe a link?).

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:30 pm 
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It was required for both organised play in dungeons and dragons "4e" and up, as well as being necessary for pathfinder. DMs taking part in the organized play scenarios/dungeons/adventures simply would not be allowed to accept players that weren't registered if they wanted to keep their own registered status and have their adventures 'count'.

Then of course there was the bonus rewards mechanic (I don't know much about it, as I quit store-gaming when it happened, because it happened), but WotC mandated that fun could only happen on Wednesdays (I think) and official 'organised play' could only happen on that scheduled day (yes, seriously). They ran online servers that you used smart phones/laptops to access to get parts of adventures and special 'power ups' for your character. It was a system that didn't need to be in place, and was used to force players into the online hooks of various companies. Stuff has improved since 5e (but still kinda sucks, in my opinion), but details can probably be found if you dig about for old 4e happenings.

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I wondered why the roleplaying tables at our group now look like a hackers convention nowadays :-) (they play pathfinder.)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:32 pm 
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Wow I missed out on this earlier.

I am glad to see things moving on this, and applaud GW for going back to its roots.

As far as 8mm, well I am glad its not 10mm, but I am wondering what it really means. When epic space marines, eldar, and orks were first released as metal they were pretty big compared to their modern counterparts. When SM1 was released, and the early Eldar and Ork sets with the Falcons and Battlewagons, the figures got pretty small. Thats when I first started hearing 6mm.

But by the time Epic 40k came out, some of those character minis got a little bigger. Take the Chaplin for example, or the Techmarine. Def not the same scale as the SM1 version. If thats the difference between 6mm and 8mm, then awesome. If its a little bigger than the Chaplin, kinda a letdown for me, but not a deal breaker. I don't mix my minis up between my games anyway lol.

I just hope the weapon ranges havent been reduced further :/. Especially if the models are getting bigger.

On that note, GW has released a bunch of standalone games recently. Has anyone heard any feedback on any of them, like the latest Warhammer Quest game? Might be an indication how good the AT might be. If they suck, AT might too.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:28 am 
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New rumors from battle bunnies

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- It's basically the new EPIC.

- It will be set during the Horus Heresy (for now). It's just easier to start with Titans vs Titans, and expand later on.

- It will be in 8mm scale. You will be able to make out power armour marks.

- Since all is done in CAD, they can release all titans done for AT also in 28mm scale if they prove to be liked.

- The reason the new Knight got upscaled was because of AT - they wanted to make him look distinguishable from the Questoris and Cerastus chassis. Oh, and he was originally meant to be the 'Warden'.

- They will start with titans, and will expand to tanks/flyers and infantry aswell as other races later. But that's still a while out.

- The first models will be Warhound/Reaver/Warlord aswell as Knights, done in resin.

- The starter box will be just a game set-up starter, without models (atleast that's what's planned for now). It will be done in plastic and be all about scenery and rules.

- They may do a nice Black Book version of the rules too, including propper background and lots of colour schemes!

- The planned release is the next Horus Heresy Weekender.

- They may do a 28mm scale Adeptus Titanicus battle at the next HH Weekender

Some rules bits - informations via Zedmeister, Dakka

- They're digging into all previous Epic games for inspiration, but it will be a new rule set.
- Expect Titans to have a plasma reactor power tracker to keep track of how much power they have.
- They'll be able to overload the reactor to boost power with a risk (Overload voids, increase speed, etc)
- Harpoons will be back but nowhere near as ridiculous as they used to be!
- Expect 2nd edition Epic orders and damage charts
- Expect 1st edition campaign and upgrade rules
- Engine war will be a bit of a slugfest, with Titans slowly blasting each other to Atoms, staggering about, weapons missing, systems burnt out, but still able to fight until you smash the legs, pulverise the MIU's or cause the reactor to go nuclear.
- Manourberability is key - the heavier the Titan, the slower they are. He described a play test where his final warlord was scragged when an enemy warhound got behind it and he didn't have enough power to overload the reactor to take more turns than they can
- Knights are objective grabbers and shield droppers, don't expect them to go toe to toe with Titans and survive
- Campaign games are the default mode of play, similar to Necromunda as he described it. With options for competitive and open play.
- Machine spirit personality will play a role. This sounded really exciting. Titans will pick up a personality the more used they are. So you could end up wth a Titan geared for close combat and have it turn into a bit of berserker which will have an effect of it becoming less controllable in battle. 'Resting' the Titan becomes an important choice to make. Yes, your Titan could end up with PTSD or worse...


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- It will be in 8mm scale. You will be able to make out power armour marks.

I hope they stop peddling this as the reason. :gah

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:04 am 
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Sounds like all the stuff that was finnicky and irritating about 1st/2nd edition all rolled into one

I too hope they stop making out that it's 8mm for any reason but invalidating existing players collections

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We're NOT the target for this game. Stop deluding yourselves ;)

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I'm not interested myself due to the scale change but I wonder what effect the game might have on the existing epic community? Less or more interest in EpicA?

Or if someone was to turn up at an Epic-UK tournament with a new AT Titan (an 8mm scale Warlord would be 16cm tall by my estimation and maybe on a 12cm wide base) would people be fine playing with this?


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Unless they make 8mm incredible chunky, I don't think it will matter one bit. After all, if someone was too make a fan made space marine type mini for epic (not that anyone would do that, as that is bad) I'm almost sure that it would be around the 8mm mark, and defiantly bigger than the old plastic space marines.

Jimmy is right, we are not the target audience for this new version. Unless the scenery is mindblowingly awesome, I wont be bothering with this, even if I have been rather impressed with GWs offerings as of late.

No orks. Too much heresy. Resin minis. My three least favourite things about 40k all rolled in to one.

Though I'm taking the rumours with a Ocean of salt. A starter game with No minis? Doesn't sit well with GW current style. Other companies may have do that, but doesn't seem like current GW would do that.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:06 pm 
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Or if someone was to turn up at an Epic-UK tournament with a new AT Titan (an 8mm scale Warlord would be 16cm tall by my estimation and maybe on a 12cm wide base) would people be fine playing with this?
I'd have no problem with this. After years of playing with different sized models representing the same thing it would just be more spice in the mix.

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