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Author:  MaksimSmelchak [ Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:29 am ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Anyone have ideas how to convert the following FW SM vehicles or which proxies are ideal to use for Epic:

- Damocles Command Rhino
A Rhino with command antennas, satellite uplink, etc.

- HELIOS LAND RAIDER
A special Landraider with a missile launcher on top of the hull.

- LAND RAIDER - CRUSADER
A special Landraider that trades out its side lasers for x6 heavy bolters, adds gatling cannons up top, and has fragmentation charges on the hull.

- LAND RAIDER PROMETHEUS COMMAND TANK
A special Landraider with command capability.

- LAND SPEEDER TEMPEST
A Landspeeder with a one-man armoured cockpit, larger wings, missiles, and a souped-up engine.

- Whirlwind Hyperios
A SAM Rhino for the SMs.

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- How about the following FW IG vehicles:

- ATLAS RECOVERY TANK
It looks like a Leman Russ chassis with an A-frame towing jig and other recovery equipment.

- Chimera (Gryphonne IV pattern) with autocannon turret
A Chimera with an autocannon turret.

- CYCLOPS DEMOLITION VEHICLE
It looks similar to the German WWII remote control demolition tank. It's essentially a tankette packed with explosives.

- Imperial Valkyrie Airborne Assault Carrier
Air cav for the IG.

- Imperial Vulture Gunship
A gunship to cover the air cav.

- SENTINEL POWERLIFTER
A sentinel with two load carrying claws / cargo arms. Anyone have recall from "Aliens 2?"

- TARANTULA SENTRY GUN WITH HEAVY BOLTERS
A Tarantula variant with twin linked heavy bolters instead of the standard twin linked heavy lasers.

- TARANTULA SENTRY GUN WITH LASCANNONS
A Tarantula variant with the standard twin linked heavy lasers.

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How about the following E-A SM units:

- HUNTER (use a Whirlwind to represent Hunters for the moment)
Another SM SAM Rhino. How does this compare to the Whirlwind Hyperios?

- LAND SPEEDER - Standard (No models yet, use whatever you have to hand!)
It's the same as the Epic-40k metal Landspeeder except without the heavy support weapon mounted under the chassis.

- LAND SPEEDER TYPHOON (No models yet, use whatever you have to hand!)
It's a standard Landspeeder with two AP missile launchers mounted on either side of the rear fuselage.

- SPACE MARINE COMMANDER

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Forgeworld link:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:41 am ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Got your PM Maksim. ?

I made a Helios Land Raider by just gluing a set of Whirlwind missiles on top of the hull. ?

I also suggest using:
http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/NoFrames ... 0-309.html
To use as a proxy for Tarantulas.

Easy... ?:;): ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Thanks, Maksim, I was just going to make that change. (It was late last night when I sent you that pic!)

The "Days of Empire" site has a "Sentry" gun that would make a good "Rapier" or Flak gun too... :D ?

Look under the Days of Empire line at this URL:
http://www.tin-soldier.com/doe/small.html

(I'll send you a pic, if I can... ) ?:;):

Author:  Chris [ Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:51 am ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Yep, I did the same with a Helios, I plan to do a couple more.

For Hunters/Hyperios, just use a standard Whirlwind, but paint the launcher a different colour than the rest of your Whirlwinds.

Rhino Command Tank - Standard Rhino with a few BFG ariels stuck on the top?

Just a few ideas...

Cheers,
Chris.

Author:  chubbybob [ Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:35 am ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Quote (Chris @ 09 2003 June,07:51)
For Hunters/Hyperios, just use a standard Whirlwind, but paint the launcher a different colour to the rest of you Whirlwinds.

Rhino Command Tank - Standard Rhino with a few BFG ariels stuck on the top?


Hi,

Rhino AA vehicle: I did an AA version of a rhino a couple of years back. I used a plastic rhino and added the launcher from a H&R Russian SAM-8 Gecko launcher (I think). This is the result:

http://www.angelfire.com/games4/chubbyb ... aatnk4.jpg

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Rhino Command vehicle: The Rhino command vehicle you can do following modern practice . I added to the structure of an existing vehicle:

http://www.angelfire.com/games4/chubbyb ... cctrk1.jpg

This one is actually the hull of a plastic Orc battle wagon that I used as the hull for a series of recce vehicles.

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Cigar Challenge: The commander's cigar was a challenge i.e. bet from a friend!

Bet you can't put a cigar in his mouth... heheheh!???

Bob DeAngelis

Author:  stormseer [ Mon Jun 09, 2003 10:40 am ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Like the AA variant, Bob, and the cigar... ?:D

Hehe, great stuff!!

To make the Damocles, I'd make the uplink dish from a bit of thin plasticard, and maybe add some whip ariels made from thin wire or something similar.... :)

Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Jun 09, 2003 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Great Stuff, Bob!!!

A command vehicle (like a US M577, check the GHQ site, is nothing more than a "tall" M113. I've commanded from both.)

It can just have a built-up superstructure and more antennas. Or even a small "dish" for Satcom. Again... easy ?:D ?

We use the SM-1 Mk1 Whirlwind as FA and the SM2/E40K Mk2/3(pl) as AAA. Too easy... ?:cool:

Author:  nealhunt [ Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Hunter: ?I use a mix of the old and new Whirlwinds. The odd-man-out is the Hunter.

Landspeeder Typhoon: I was just thinking about this, but haven't gotten to the point of pulling out the figures to check sizes... ?

Would the old Whirlwind missile launcher boxes fit on a Landspeeder figure?

Author:  stormseer [ Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

For the Landspeeder Typhoon I think you could quite easily make the missile boxes from a little piece of sprue or plastic rod cut to shape, as I think the old Whirlwind missile box would be a little too big I think....

Author:  Legion 4 [ Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:26 am ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Yes,

The SM1 Whirlwind launchers are too big.

Maybe E40K Thunderbolt missiles, suitably modified?

Author:  MaksimSmelchak [ Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

I'm updating my latest ideas:

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- Damocles Command Rhino
A Rhino with command antennas, satellite uplink, etc.
- This shouldn't be too hard since all I have to do is to add comms equipment until I get a "command" version.

- HELIOS LAND RAIDER
A special Landraider with a missile launcher on top of the hull.
- Most people have suggested using Whirlwind missiles, but I want something that better approximates the squarish missile box on the HELIOS.

- LAND RAIDER - CRUSADER
A special Landraider that trades out its side lasers for x6 heavy bolters, adds gatling cannons up top, and has fragmentation charges on the hull.
- I have had two ideas how to do this:
- 1. Cut up three Leman Russ Bolter sponsons to approximate the heavy bolters and don't worry about the gatling cannons..
- 2. Use BFG Imperial weapons turrets to approximate the heavy bolters and the assault gun off of a Landspeeder.

- LAND RAIDER PROMETHEUS COMMAND TANK
A special Landraider with command capability.
- This shouldn't be too hard since all I have to do is to add comms equipment until I get a "command" version.l Landraider with command capability.

- LAND SPEEDER TEMPEST
A Landspeeder with a one-man armoured cockpit, larger wings, missiles, and a souped-up engine.
- I'm thinking that Brigade's SF300-506 Giap Grav scout vehicle makes an excellent Landspeeder Tempest.
http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/NoFrames ... 0-506.html

- Whirlwind Hyperios
A SAM Rhino for the SMs.
- I'm looking at adding a small missile launcher to the Rhino frame. I don't want to use regular Rhino - Whirlwinds.

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- How about the following FW IG vehicles:

- ATLAS RECOVERY TANK
It looks like a Leman Russ chassis with an A-frame towing jig and other recovery equipment.
- I'll add an A-frame towing jig and a crane to an ATLAS frame.

- Chimera (Gryphonne IV pattern) with autocannon turret
A Chimera with an autocannon turret.
- I think that if I add a Mk.I metal Leman Russ turret that it would do the job!

- CYCLOPS DEMOLITION VEHICLE
It looks similar to the German WWII remote control demolition tank. It's essentially a tankette packed with explosives.
- NAVWAR - WWII German Vehicles
- NT147  GOLIATH DEMOLITION VEHICLE - x 3 - 30p
http://www.navwar.freeserve.co.uk/
- Irregular also has a WWII German Goliath version, but the casting is very poor.

- Imperial Valkyrie Airborne Assault Carrier
Air cav for the IG.
- I'll use the CAV Fenri for this.

- Imperial Vulture Gunship
A gunship to cover the air cav.
- I have no idea how to do this. It's looking like it'll take a lot of conversion!

- SENTINEL POWERLIFTER
A sentinel with two load carrying claws / cargo arms. Anyone have recall from "Aliens 2?"
- I still don't have any good ideas how to do this.

- TARANTULA SENTRY GUN WITH HEAVY BOLTERS
A Tarantula variant with twin linked heavy bolters instead of the standard twin linked heavy lasers.
- I have no idea.

- TARANTULA SENTRY GUN WITH LASCANNONS
A Tarantula variant with the standard twin linked heavy lasers.
- I'm going to use the old lead versions or the Brigade piece for this.

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How about the following E-A SM units:

- HUNTER (use a Whirlwind to represent Hunters for the moment)
Another SM SAM Rhino. How does this compare to the Whirlwind Hyperios?
- This vehicle and the Whirlwind - HYPERIOS are the same thing in my book.
- I'm looking at adding a small missile launcher to the Rhino frame. I don't want to use regular Rhino - Whirlwinds.

- LAND SPEEDER - Standard (No models yet, use whatever you have to hand!)
It's the same as the Epic-40k metal Landspeeder except without the heavy support weapon mounted under the chassis.
- I'll just cut off the gatling cannon mounted underneath the Land Speeder. I can use that gatling cannon for my Crusaders.

- LAND SPEEDER TYPHOON (No models yet, use whatever you have to hand!)
It's a standard Landspeeder with two AP missile launchers mounted on either side of the rear fuselage.
- I think that I'll have to make the missile launchers out of plasticard.

- SPACE MARINE COMMANDER
- I'm going to mount special characters on pennies and build them a little mount to stand on. Painting regular plastic figures differently should be enough to distinguish them.
- I'll use some proxy infantry where I can.

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Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

Author:  centurion [ Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Well, I'm not an expert at converting, but I did the following:

Crusader:
I used four BFG chaos turrets to represent the side sponsons, two assault guns from the plastic IG sentinel and a melta-gun from the squat trike mounted on the turret.

Land Speeder Typhoon:
Cut a missile launcher from the Whirlwind in half and mount it on the sides of the Land Speeder.

Land Raider Prometheus:
Use two bolter sprues from the Thunderhawk, cut in half and mount them one on top of the other and use the turret from the Whirlwind "sans" missiles as a command turret.

Well, that's about it.

I have photos, but no way of posting them. Any suggestions would be helpful.

Author:  MaksimSmelchak [ Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Centurion,

Crusader: I used four BFG chaos turrets to represent the side sponsons, two assault guns from the plastic IG sentinel and a melta-gun from the squat trike mounted on the turret.


Land Raider - Crusader: I'm thinking along the same lines of using BFG turrets for the sponsons. I'm thinking that if I cut off the lascannons off the plastic Land Raider turret then I can easily move in the BFG turrets.

I really like the idea about the Sentinel guns and the melta-gun from the Squat trike.

Land Speeder Typhoon: Cut a missile launcher from the Whirlwind in half and mount it on the sides of the Land Speeder.

Land Speeder - Typhoon: Do you mean the original boxy Whirlwind turret or the more recent one with missile tubes?

Land Raider Promethues: Use two bolter sprues from the Thunderhawk, cut in half and mount them one on top of the other and use the turret from the Whirlwind "sans" missiles as a command turret.

Land Raider - Promethius: I don't have the Imperial update. What does the command turret look like?

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It's good to see you at the forum. I was wondering if you were going to show up here.

I still remember your Epic Golden Demon Sanguinius entry. It's an awesome conversion using Exarch wings on a SM body.

Shalom,
Maksim.
Author:  stormseer [ Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:38 pm ]
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A link here for a good picture of the Prometheus- I think Centurion was meaning the little sensor turret thingy on top...

Author:  centurion [ Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

Maksim,

For the Typhoon, I used the missile pod off of a plastic Whirlwind turret.

This left me with the turret which looks good enough to make a command varient out of any vehicle.

As a side note I sold the Sanguinius mini for $15.00 USD to a friend of mine. Surprised the heck out of me that he would pay that much.

Thanks for the reply.

I got your message and will send them off this weekend.

Author:  Legion 4 [ Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:33 am ]
Post subject:  Ideas to Convert FW and E-A Vehicles:

I would not be surprised to see F/W or Fanatic (or both!!) produce some of the conversions that you gentlemen have been talking about in Epic scale. ?

And I always thought a cool AAA vehicle would be a Rhino with the old AT-1 Titan Carapace Multi-laser turret mounted on top. ?

Hey any of you guys have any old AT-1 Titan Carapace Multi-lasers that you want to get rid of? ???

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