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Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:20 am ]
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Sorry if thishas been brought up in another thread but i couldn't really find it anywhere.

Anyway I thought I'd create a topic about Stormwind. What do we know about it for facts, what do people speculate, what do you hope will be in it?

I know it is supposed to cover the basic Eldar army list -Biel Tan was it? In addition it was supposed to include the Death Korps of Krieg list, Feral Orks list and an yet unspecified SM list.
Now: Did anyone see the Blood Angles Dreadnought conversion on yesterdays pic of the day on the SG page? When you also consider that therre was a Baal pattern predator among the resn test pieces from Games Day I am beginning to speculate werther the "unspecified SM list" could be Blood Angles???
It would seem logical for it to be the Black Templars as there's already a test list for them in the vault + some of the minis are paintd as BT but then again the above does suggest that a Blood Angles list isn't too far awaay either...

Cheers!
Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:56 am ]
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Its impossible to say.  What you say is right, and it could be either.  I think I would bet on BT rather than BA, purely for the reason of no experimental list available for the Blood Angels yet.

I'm more interested in how the Eldar list is going.   Seems to me that there's a lot of work still to do.
Author:  TuffSkull [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:49 am ]
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Its definitely Biel Tan.
Aspect warriors will be plastic E40K editon ones with the exception of the Shining spears.

Thats basically all the official definites to date.
The 21 pack range could be well guessed at, but quantities & setup are obviously reliant on the army list which is still in testing.

Both points for which SM army are as valid as each other, but I would go with BTs. The BA drednought was a conversion, so implies nothing, but the BAAL is a valid point. Similarly, The BT painted minis are as I have said before, Mark Bedford's (the sculptors) personal force & arent any more official in terms of a studio army than my second Warhound will be  :D However, the army list is already in testing so to me this is the single most reliable pointer at this stage.
Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:57 am ]
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Well they still need to sculpt some more aspects, as the current sprue only has DR, SH, SS, WS and HB.  They need to add Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers and Shining Spears.

I dont see them forcing you to convert all of those to be able to field them.

I wonder if we'd then also see aspect specific exarchs?  I doubt it.
Author:  TuffSkull [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:13 pm ]
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Quote (Shadow Hunter @ 19 2003 Nov.,10:57)
Well they still need to sculpt some more aspects, as the current sprue only has DR, SH, SS, WS and HB. ?They need to add Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers and Shining Spears.

I dont see them forcing you to convert all of those to be able to field them.

I wonder if we'd then also see aspect specific exarchs? ?I doubt it.

Good point, I'd completely overlooked that.

As I say, last I heard they said all the Aspects other than SS's would be plastic. Obviously we wont be seeing any NEW plastics (that_IS_ a definite) so I wonder what their plan is - different paint schemes or new metals? I'll try and find out.
Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:20 pm ]
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If you could, that would be great.  As if I need to convert them, I'd better start now to get them finished in time, ready for their release  :p
Author:  stormseer [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:52 pm ]
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...Well, the SM2 era Eldar sprues had Dire Avengers and Fire Dragons.. metals of these perhaps?  ???  ..I'd like new models really, as the Fire Dragon especially weren't anything special...
Author:  Mojarn Piett [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:55 pm ]
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Quote (Shadow Hunter @ 19 2003 Nov.,10:57)
Well they still need to sculpt some more aspects, as the current sprue only has DR, SH, SS, WS and HB.  They need to add Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers and Shining Spears.

Strange.  ???  The old SM2 Eldar sprue had Fire Dragons. I only noticed the E40k one doesn't have them after you said so.  :blush:
Author:  CrimsonFury [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:27 pm ]
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The fanatic stuido army appears to be mostly painted in Salamanders colour scheme, so thats always another possiblity for the undecided SM variant list.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:52 pm ]
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All a bit confusing, Yes ? ???
Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:37 pm ]
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The fanatic stuido army appears to be mostly painted in Salamanders colour scheme, so thats always another possiblity for the undecided SM variant list.


I think that the Salamanders will be the studio (codex) army for E:A since the Salamanders were present on Armageddon according to the fluff. However both the Blood Angles and Black Templars differs sufficiently from codex to have their seperate army lists. If there is going be a blood angles army list in the next vault update it's going to be a close race to see which will make it into the supplement but for now the Black Templars seems to be in the lead.

For the missing Asspect Warriors I've been using standard Guardians painted in the Aspect's colour scheme but it would be really nice for them to have their own miniatures. Aspect-specific Exarchs...oh yeah! Bring 'em on! ...probably not very likely though :(
As a side note: Harlequins could do with a remake too... the details are not as good as they could be. Haven't those minis been arroound since SM?
Author:  Markconz [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:39 pm ]
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DA and FD have the advantage of not looking all that different to guardians, unlike the other aspect types.  

Just chopping down a guardians shuriken catapult and adding a small round tube thing on the end makes a good looking melta gun for FD.  DA are fine as is.

The real problem is lack of good looking exarchs for all the aspects...
Author:  nealhunt [ Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:07 pm ]
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You know, there is scheduled to be a SM commanders blister, so there is a chance there will be an Exarchs blister.

We can at least console ourselves with that.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:44 am ]
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I'll be standing-by !  :;):
Author:  primarch [ Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:56 am ]
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Hi!

The harlequin models are pretty old, first edition SM. The only exarchs are the ones with wings, so I guess they are swooping hawk exarchs.

Primarch
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