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 Post subject: Invulnerable save with reinforced armour
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:06 pm 
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Does a unit that uses it's reinforced save then get to use its Invulnerable save after also? Eg. A knight or necron monoliths.

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 Post subject: Re: Invulnerable save with reinforced armour
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:00 am 
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Straight Invulnerable Save, yes, it's a second save. Reinforced armor is the re-roll of the first save if it fails, or allowing a first save if it's a MW.

Knight Shields aren't invulnerable saves: https://tp.net-armageddon.org/army-list ... technology

Living Metal functions exactly like an invulnerable, but is a 4+. Monoliths don't have reinforced armour though.

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 Post subject: Re: Invulnerable save with reinforced armour
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:51 am 
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For Knights, it depends on where the army list is from.

EpicUK Knights are an exception and have Reinforced Armour plus a 5+ Invulnerable Save.

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 Post subject: Re: Invulnerable save with reinforced armour
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:05 pm 
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Thanks for getting back to me. I should clarify that the knights I mention are from the Epic UK list which is. 5+ reinforced with an invulnerable save. In this case, with a normal AT attack I can fail my normal save and reinforced and then still get to use my invuln save?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:00 pm 
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scottyk wrote:
Thanks for getting back to me. I should clarify that the knights I mention are from the Epic UK list which is. 5+ reinforced with an invulnerable save. In this case, with a normal AT attack I can fail my normal save and reinforced and then still get to use my invuln save?

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 Post subject: Re: Invulnerable save with reinforced armour
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:10 pm 
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Which makes them really tough.

The Acastus with 4+ Reinforced and a 5+ INV even more so!

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 Post subject: Re: Invulnerable save with reinforced armour
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:48 am 
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Which makes them really tough.

The Acastus with 4+ Reinforced and a 5+ INV even more so!

Just to clarify, Knights with the knight shield rule in the Codex Titanicus list (such as the Acastus) have the 5+ inv. The knights in the knight list are regular 6+ Inv.
But in any case, yes they can use the invuln and both rolls for reinforced, against normal attacks, but in one list the inv is 6+ in the other 5+.

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