Hey.
A question came up today, and it made me confused:
When shooting with macros weapons against formations with both non-WE and WE units, what rules takes effect when figuring out who is hit?
The rules says:

2.2.7 Macro Weapons
Allocating Hits:
If an attacking formation scores hits both with normal weapons and weapons with the macro-weapon ability, then the opposing player must allocate and make any saves for the normal hits first, and then allocate and make any saves for the macro-weapon hits. Hits from macro-weapons can only be applied to units that are in a position to be hit by a macro-weapon

3.2.1 War Engines
If a formation includes both war engines and non-war engine units then an attacker must state whether any attacks he makes on the formation will be directed at the war engines or the other units in the formation. Attacks directed at the war engines can only be allocated against war engines if they hit, while attacks directed at other units may not be allocated to the war engines in the formation.

1.9.6 Allocate Hits and Make Saving Throws:
...Hits must be allocated to the closest potential target first. You may not allocate a second hit to a unit until one
hit has been allocated to every potential target, or allocate a third hit until all targets have been allocated two hits, etc.

So... Do I allocate hits from the MW from the front and back for all of the formation, and allocate on the Warengine, up to its DC, when it's the WE turn to get hits allocated? Or do the attacker split his shots of MW between WE and the rest of the formation? (You can snipe WE out of formations with your shadowsswords for example)

If there are War Engines in the detachment, you must allocate attacks to them or to the rest of the detachment.

Macro Weapons don’t make any difference to that, as the attacks have already been targeted at the WE or non-WE before you get to the hit allocation process.

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To expand on that.

The player who's firing at a formation with WEs and non-WEs declares which attacks are being directed against WEs or not. E.g. I have 4 AT5+ attacks and 2MW4+ attacks, I can declare 2 AT5+ and 1 MW4+ on non-WEs, and the remaining 2 AT5+ and 1 MW4+ on the WEs. You can split AT attacks anyway you like, and MW attacks anyway you like between WEs and non-WEs.

When the attacks are rolled, make sure it's clear which pool you're rolling. Any regular non-WE hits are allocated to non-WEs closest to furthest, and any WE hits are allocated to WEs in the same manner. Then you allocate non-WE MW hits to non-WE units and MW WE hits to WE units, starting closest to furthest again for each type of hit.

In order to be allocate a hit to a enemy unit you must have at least one unit that contributed an attack to the dice pool with a line of site to that enemy unit.

So yes, Shadowswords can go straight for the WEs. A Salamander Command in front of them will be ignored. This is the reason why Gunslinger007 adds Trygons to the Dominatrix swarm. They're Deathstrike bait.

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Thanks a lot! Seems like I misunderstood the rules. It surely make the shadowsword better than it already as, being one of the best super heavies the IG can get... No more hiding my WE behind minor vehicles