GlynG wrote:
I’m intending to work up a more streamlined Net-EA Horus Heresy legion list in the coming months (a single tournament focussed generic legion list and probably not bothering with all the many variants). I have put a lot of thought into how to go about it and I have plenty of local epic veterans up for testing it I just need to find the time to write it up. I’m aiming for a list that could be tournament approved in time and that hopefully a player could show up to any tournament with and use to play against existing lists.
The Epic AU lists are ok but not great. They added a way higher level of detail with weapon options and special rules than is necessary or that previous Epic Armageddon lists have had. It slows the game down and makes it harder to balance.
Hard agree. They're immense lists and not really tournament focused and harder to balance in that way. TBF that's not what they're stated goal was/is which is narrative style 30k gaming. They specifically want details and down in the weeds. Of course that doesn't work well for your wants/needs!
sturgeon wrote:
My thought was to make a whole legion wide list then give each legion their units and primarch and give any special rules to all legions without getting into legion specific traits (so legion specific wargear only).
*Edit My area is new to epic and currently we only have people making EpicAU compliant lists. There are others who aren't interested in HH but would like to play NetEA. Since we are trying to build the community, having unified rules would open up the hobby.
Seems a very cogent approach!
GlynG wrote:
Yeah it irritates me that the Epic AU crowd decided relatively recently to create their own spin-off version of the the EpicA rules and rewrite loads of areas of the rules on a whim.
Why? People don't have to play any version of the rules or game that you do. I mean by that thinking you must hate me and Tom for writing a new ruleset based on a revamped EA for Exodus Wars. Playing vanilla EA for me now feels like a huge step back in game design. You can choose to not like their changes- that's totally valid but they don't cause any issues with the UK scene as they don't do any development testing and don't want to because they want to play a very radically different style of play. I don't fault them for that even if it's not my personal thing. [shrugs]
GlynG wrote:
I'd suggest you're probably best off using the much more commonly used and better tested Net-EA rules rather than the Epic AU rules but use either Epic AU or Net-EA lists (or Epic UK lists if you're in the UK). The AU lists run fine using Net-EA rules and the two sets of lists should be roughly balanced against each other.
100% this
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