Looks pretty good T/S ! I'd say between your SHTs and air units, you should be able to handle a Titan attack, without too much trouble.
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| Author: | TuffSkull [ Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:48 pm ] |
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Hi all, As most will (should) have noted, I'm currently painting up a small IG army for Epic:Armageddon. Having not playtested in a good while, I'm sure much has changed that I'm as yet unaware of. Thus I turn to you for your thoughts on my army composition. Its designed to be a 5000 point force, but with 500points leway to allow me some variation. Thus we have (bold is companies, italic is what a formation contains, normal is Co.upgrades): 1 Regimental HQ Regimental Command, Salamander, 12 troop stands, 6 chimeras Fire Support Platoon in Chimeras 4 Fire Support Stands, 2 Chimeras Mechanised Company 1 Command, Salamander, 12 troop stands, 6 chimeras Fire Support Platoon in Chimeras 4 Fire Support Stands, 2 Chimeras Tank Comapany 9 Leman Russ & 1 Vanquisher command Super Heavy Tank Company 3 baneblades (that look a lot like Stormhammers) Super Heavy Tank Company 3 Shadowswords (that look a lot like Stormblades) Artillery Company 1 Salamander, 6 Manticore, 3 Bombard Support Formations Sentinel Squadron 4 Sentinel scout walkers Sentinel Squadron 4 Sentinel scout walkers Flak Battery 3 Hydra Flak Tanks Artillery Battery 3 manticores Artillery Battery 3 basilisk I also have the following "floating" upgrades, ie I cant decide which companies they would be of most use for: Tank Squadron 3 Leman Russ MBTs (that look a lot like destroyer tank hunters) Tank Squadron 3 Leman Russ Demolishers Griffon Battery 3 griffon mortars (which look a lot like Medusas) Navy Support 2 Thunderbolt Fighters (which look a lot like Lightning strike aircraft) 2 marauder Bombers All told, its 5350 points. I initially planned a 4K army, with only one SHT company ever being fielded at a time, but with some new additions on order, it expanded to 5K rather fast. What would you add? Where would you alocate the support formations? What would you change around? Would you say that a Titan is really needed? If So, could I get away with a reaver or warhounds? Any thoughts much appreciated. |
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| Author: | iblisdrax [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:23 am ] |
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I would think that you could get away with a pair of warhounds in most situations, because paired with your Shadowswords they could handle an enemy titan, as long as there were only one or two. Any more than that, and you would probably need the heavier firepower of the reaver to go with them. I personally like my pair of warhounds, they rock. my 2cents, iblisdrax |
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:36 am ] |
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Looks pretty good T/S ! I'd say between your SHTs and air units, you should be able to handle a Titan attack, without too much trouble.
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| Author: | asaura [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:27 am ] | ||
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Flak Battery 3 Hydra Flak Tanks | |||
| Author: | Chris [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | IG army list - Opinions please |
Seems like a good force there Tuff! I have one correction to make though: Thunderbolts come in groups of 3 not 2  Also, you seem to have more support formations than companies, or have I misunderstood and some of them are company upgrades? Cheers Chris |
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| Author: | Tas [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | IG army list - Opinions please |
Asaura has some good points; I'd spilt up the AAA as well. Enemy air can cut your armoured column to shreds in short order without some close defence A pair of Warhounds never goes astray!  They will divert a LOT of attention their way and probably give you an opening elsewhere. If you want some real titan killer power, take a pair of Deathstrikes...Basilisks. I'd take them vice the Bombards. Much nicer, especially with the updated stats for directf ire AT role (can we say German 88mm kiddies? )But that is just fien tuning. Its a nice, well rounded forec that will suit most circumstances. And you are a #$%^ for getting it all done in a week, including time at the pub. 
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:59 pm ] |
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I could be wrong, but I think some of you guys, misinterpreted this list. This is not a Task Force Organization or deployment list. This does not show how he's going to employ the force but a list of available forces. But I could be wrong ?! 
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:22 pm ] |
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I agree that spreading the AA is the way to go. The latest (supposedly final) list is in the vault and it has some very relevant changes. ============ Bombards can now only be fielded as independent batteries. Manticores have Disrupt ability. Since combined barrages lose special abilities, you will want your arty company to be all Manticores. Use the Basilisks as an independent battery. Thunderbolts got a good upgrade this last time around, so they are 2 for 150 points, iirc. No more Salamanders (model production didnt' make it). They're all chimeras. ========== For strategic suggestions: I would add a formation of Stormtroopers. 8 scouts with short range AT and decent assault seems to be a perfect escort formation for a company of Baneblades that you intend to use aggressively. Roughriders could perform a similar role, but have less offesive flexibility. I would have a couple companies of infantry to trade out for one of your mech or arty companies. You could also add the fire support platoons and still garrison them as an alternate to adding them to the mech inf. That would add 650-850 points, depending on whether you added roughriders, stormtroopers, or both. |
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| Author: | Chris [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:16 pm ] |
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Where in the vault are they Neal? I can't find them! Could you please post a link? Cheers Chris |
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| Author: | TuffSkull [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:44 pm ] |
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[quote="nealhunt,27 2003 Oct.,18:22"][/quote] Thanks for those points all. I will split the flak in my army list. I will see about adding a titan or two. I dont have many spare at the mo, but I'm sure I can find something. Thanks Neal for confirmation of the Flyer numbers, I originally had 3 out, but on double checking the lists, had noted they said only two. The Artillery company was all manticores in the first place, but I figured that was overkill so swapped 3 of them out, They'll go back in now! If the Basilisks can also AT shoot now, I prefer the idea of a spare unit of tank hunters floating freely. Not sure about Stormies or RR for supporting the Baneblades. They seem like a lot of painting - Having said that, the planes are proving to be a LOT of painting so they cant be worse than them! They'll be the last thing I do I guess. No more salamanders? They're in the current list! How rude.... mine are stand ins then, I dont have enough Chimeras! Chris:Unless I have counted wrong, I currently have 1 more company than support formation. Some of the listings at the bottom are upgrades which I just didnt (dont!) know where to place! Tas: Its a long way from all done, but it wasnt a bad first week. I wont be getting much done this week though since I'm working Mon-Wed & am going away Thurs-Sunday! Dont have any commissions at the moment though  God side means lots more time for the IG I guess!Thanks all for the tips - Keep 'em coming! I cant wait to get this force finished & get them trialed on the battlefield now 
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| Author: | Chris [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:51 pm ] | ||
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It was changed to 3 in the last Errata file. Go to the vault and download it, I remember it because I altered it on my printed version. Cheers Chris |
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| Author: | TuffSkull [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:58 pm ] | ||||
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Arrg, confusion. Thanks for the help though Chris, I'll look it up. After painting 1 trial aircraft last night, if I cant get a definite answer, I'll just paint & use two. If I find out on release that I've been playing with a disadvantage then I'll do a third, but I am still (after 15 years in the hobby) waiting to paint a plane I'm happy with so I'll live with the disadvantage if need be
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:09 pm ] |
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http://www.specialist-games.com/epic40k/Vault.htm Section 6.0 has the army lists posted as of 23Oct03. Outside of some typos, the only thing in flux is the ork list. T-bolts are 2 for 150. BTW, there are 2 support formations allowed per company now. |
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| Author: | TuffSkull [ Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:31 pm ] | ||
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Many thanks - I've downloaded the pages, but with all this painting havent had a chance to do any reading! (speaking of which, I havent had a second spare tonight to lift a brush. I will post an update to the diary if I can tomorrow morning before work, otherwise you might have to wait I'm afraid!) |
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| Author: | Chris [ Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:57 am ] |
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Sorry to cause even more confusion, but I found the errata file I had saved, which states: Space Marine & Imperial Guard Army Lists Increase the number of Thunderbolts in a Thunderbolt formation from two to three. | |
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