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Marine power?
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Author:  jprp [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:30 pm ]
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Hi, i keep bouncing from one painting project to another and am currently working on some big stuff for Epic, i have not played in years but like to have the models, now i was never one for keeping up with 40k developments so i am far out of the loop with new models. I would like to have something big that is specifically for marines, what is the largest/most powerful marine land vehicle? It can`t still be a land raider can it?
Author:  Apocolocyntosis [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:33 pm ]
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thunderhawk gunship? landing craft?

Both are marine specific war engines. If you want more of a tank type thing, then the fellblade or typhon are probably your best bet.
Author:  jprp [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marine power?
Apocolocyntosis wrote:
thunderhawk gunship? landing craft?

Both are marine specific war engines. If you want more of a tank type thing, then the fellblade or typhon are probably your best bet.



Just edited opening post- sorry i meant to specify land vehicle.
Author:  Stormwind [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marine power?
GW have made up all kinds of weird unnecessary units for different factions, but the only official super heavies for SM are the fellblade type tanks that FW sell in 28mm scale. The fluff suggests that in a modern 40,000 era game only the original chapters would be able to field them and even then in miniscule numbers.

Remember that it was the IG that always had the insane Capitol Imperialis type vehicles. =D
Author:  jprp [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:49 pm ]
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;D Typhon looks an easy conversion ;D
How big is a Fellblade compared to a Baneblade, about the same?
Is there nothing bigger? No Marine specific development of the Leviathan?
Author:  carlisimo109 [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marine power?
Yeah, the Horus Heresy Space Marine super-heavies are on the Baneblade chassis. Same tracks.

I've never heard of anything larger. There probably is, somewhere, like a fortress-monastery on a giant crawler, or an ordinatus sort of thing that a Space Marine chapter kept for itself at some point. But each would be a one-off.
Author:  jprp [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marine power?
carlisimo109 wrote:
Yeah, the Horus Heresy Space Marine super-heavies are on the Baneblade chassis. Same tracks.

I've never heard of anything larger. There probably is, somewhere, like a fortress-monastery on a giant crawler, or an ordinatus sort of thing that a Space Marine chapter kept for itself at some point. But each would be a one-off.


Ok will probably have to do a Capitol Imperialis in marine colours then. I just did a Leviathan equivalent for Iron Warriors and wanted something big and non-titan for the good guys.
Author:  jimmyzimms [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:06 pm ]
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Ummmm the Captial Imperialis was originally made and sold as a marine unit :P
[old codger warning]get off my lawn!!!
Remember way back when boys and girls, SM1 was all about the heresy (used as an excuse to reuse the same components in the box to save money). All sorts of weird crazy stuff was made or mentioned that didn't live forward, the marine praetorians being a prime example (yes there were guard things eventually brought forward in SM1 via white dwarfs iirc but the guard heyday was 2nd edition which didn't even have the Cap. Imp.
Author:  jimmyzimms [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:11 pm ]
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Actually jprp, a cap imp model makes a fabulous counts as battle titan. Hell, the one in the Iron Hamds list was a reaver in points/ability with small tweaks based on fluff (electrified shell == EA+1)
Author:  IJW Wartrader [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:20 pm ]
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Even older? codger alert, the Capitol Imperialis was in Armies of the Imperium as an IG vehicle, that's when the transport capacity was boosted up to two companies.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:57 pm ]
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WaaaaaaaaaaaaY back in the day ... like in '90-'91 the CI was an SM AFV only. Then SM2 came out a few years later and everybody could use everything to boost GW sales ...
Author:  GlynG [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Marine power?
carlisimo109 wrote:
Yeah, the Horus Heresy Space Marine super-heavies are on the Baneblade chassis. Same tracks.

Actually quite different tracks; ones based on the style of the original Rogue Trader Land Raider tracks.

FW currently sell 3 different SM superheavies, all varients on the same chasis. The most powerful is the Falchion (armed with twin-linked Volcano Cannons):

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Here's a couple of photos that should give you an idea of scale:
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Author:  carlisimo109 [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:55 am ]
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Yeah, I should have said suspension instead of tracks. The links are in the old style, but the shape they’re arranged in looks the same to me.
Author:  jprp [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marine power?
Fantastic leap forward to have half the tracks vulnerable to fire-doh! (I appreciate they probably did it to help visually differentiate them from guard tanks).
Author:  jprp [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marine power?
jimmyzimms wrote:
Actually jprp, a cap imp model makes a fabulous counts as battle titan. Hell, the one in the Iron Hamds list was a reaver in points/ability with small tweaks based on fluff (electrified shell == EA+1)


Logic would suggest that CI could simply ram any Titan smaller than an Imperator and leave it stranded on its back
but the profiles never reflected that.
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