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infantry cover from AVs question
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Author:  alansa [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:05 am ]
Post subject:  infantry cover from AVs question
How many infantry stands can take cover from armoured vehicles?

I've always played it as two (per starting damage capacity in the case of war engines)

Is this just a convention I've picked up from somewhere though, or is it official? Can't find it in the rules.
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: infantry cover from AVs question
Convention is 2 (per DC), it's not official.
Technically it's infinite, but nobody plays it that way.
Author:  kyussinchains [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:30 am ]
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I think it depends on what you and your opponent agree, it's not entirely clear, I know many play the transport capacity of the vehicle, I'd certainly allow that, although it does mean gorgons can shelter ten stands of infantry though!
Author:  alansa [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: infantry cover from AVs question
thanks guys.

Funny you should mention Gorgons as that was precisely the trigger for my question and ruling really matters for these units as their capacity is greater than their DC * 2. In a game the other day I ruled that not all ten infantry stands could take cover, citing this popular convention (it does make sense in that it fits nicely with the 2 * DC rules used elsewhere in the rules)

From a raw reading of the rules though, I can see one could easily argue that they should be allowed as many as they can get in b2b, same as any other piece of terrain.
Author:  kyussinchains [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:41 am ]
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very true, also my justification for the gorgons would be that it can fit ten stands inside, and it's bigger on the outside than inside (pesky laws of physics) so surely ten stands can hug it from the outside too....
Author:  MikeT [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:14 am ]
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I'm also a fan of an "exception" for Gorgons, as that's kinda their thing.
Author:  Moscovian [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:16 pm ]
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Ork Battlefortressesessess. Carries up to twelve units.

My feeling on it is it should be 2 per AV (or per DC), OR the transportation equivalent, whichever is the higher value.
Author:  MikeT [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:53 pm ]
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Moscovian wrote:
My feeling on it is it should be 2 per AV (or per DC), OR the transportation equivalent, whichever is the higher value.


Gets my vote. Possible outliers being Land Raider Crusader or Ork battlewagons being able to transport 3 each.
Author:  dptdexys [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: infantry cover from AVs question
MikeT wrote:
Moscovian wrote:
My feeling on it is it should be 2 per AV (or per DC), OR the transportation equivalent, whichever is the higher value.


Gets my vote. Possible outliers being Land Raider Crusader or Ork battlewagons being able to transport 3 each.


Agree with the 2 per AV/DC or the transport capacity if higher.
Played it that way for quite a while now with no problems and seen many players (myself included) use Thunderhawks, Vampires and Landas with full allocation of troops huddled around the Air Transports to gain the -1 to hit.
Author:  Dwarf Supreme [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: infantry cover from AVs question
Moscovian wrote:
Ork Battlefortressesessess. Carries up to twelve units.

My feeling on it is it should be 2 per AV (or per DC), OR the transportation equivalent, whichever is the higher value.

Gets my vote, too.
Author:  Jaggedtoothgrin [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:33 pm ]
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and how would that interact with ork vehicles that are allowed to carry grots in addition to their normal capacity?

does seem weird that imperial guard on one side can get nearly twice as many infantry in base to base with a gorgon compared to the other sides guard assaulting the same unit...
Author:  Onyx [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:34 pm ]
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We play 2 per AV/DC (meaning a Gorgon can only provide cover for 6 stands).

As far as I'm concerned, the massive Krieg infantry formations with Gorgons don't need any extra benefit by being able to shelter all the infantry as well as rolling 26 dice in an engagement... :P
Being able to provide cover for all the infantry just removes tactical decision making. These formations are supposed to suffer from attrition (most of the Krieg armies I've played against outnumber Tyranid armies by a lot - units on the ground, not activations).
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