I got a confirmation e-mail of my order.

I'm looking at completing my Bretonnian army and availability is all over the place. some 24 hours. Others, "This product is expected to despatch in four to five weeks."

As I type this right now - Thunderhawks are available, as in the one everyone wants and not the transporter.

Tee

Hi!

You and I think way too much alike.....

Primarch

Bleh.... I got my first dissappointment in my panic buying spree. I can't even blame GW. It's my own fault.

I never bought any of the Major Daemons from 2nd Edition because I thought they were too big. The Warmaster Greater Daemons, however, I always thought would be perfect. Slightly more than 10 mm tall? Just what I was looking for!

Except they aren't. I got my shipment today and they are just as big as the 2nd Edition versions. They are much better sculptst than the old ones, it's true. Great looking models that I'll use if I find nothing I like better. But they would seem to be more at home on a 40K battlefield rather than an Epic one.

Now I'm looking at the Warmaster Daemon Character models. Before I compound error, however, I'm going to do what I should have done before ordering the Greater Daemons. I'm going to ask how big they are!

So, how big are they? Anyone have any?


-Allen McCarley

Warmaster Daemons are just the right size for their stats in Epic Armageddon. They have 3DC and are supposed to be that size! The Warmaster Characters make great daemon princes etc but are too small for Greater Daemons in EA.

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I like to attribute the 3DC to the fact that they are immortal/infernal/super-natural. It's just an aesthetics thing for me. I faced opponents with those 2nd-edition greater daemons all the time, and I was fine with that. (I had the same issue with the 2nd edition Tyranid army, which is why I neve tried to build one.)

I know; it's my own weird problem.

In another bout of weirdness, I was OK with the old 2nd Edition flying brick thunderhawk. Too small doesn't bug me, but "too big" throws me off.

-Allen

The Daemon characters (at least the Khorne one) from Warmaster are smaller than the Greater Daemons, roughly about DC 2, so you should be fine with those from an aesthetic point of view. As Markconz points out, though, they are smaller than the stats imply. That has some implications, like LOS and foot print / base size. Not that you cannot handle it, but it should be pointed out.

/Fredmans

Do you realise there are larger greater demons in 40k cannon too Allen? There are the standard 40k codex ones and the very much larger and more powerful ones from Forge World:


The epic stats match the larger FW Greater Daemons and the WN ones are perfectly appropriately sized.

For anyone waiting on FW, while i'm sure it varied order to order, my first one has just been dispatched (and on a bank holiday as well …?) , 6 days after order places, so bit of a delay

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I was quite impressed/lucky with my FW orders. Placed last Sat and Mon, and dispatched on Weds and Thurs respectively.

I have to say the stuff I just got from FW has be some of the crispest / best cast I have had from them in ages...

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My first order from 30.04. arrived today, and everything was complete and the casts looked good. . The others (from 01.05.;.02.05;.03.05.) still have status Acknowledged.

Pretty peeved at this point...

Not even a "HEY GUYS, we here at GW hate you and we're giving you exactly 4 weeks to order your stuff and then...HAHahahahaa....pray that we might release a "special" box set of something resembling the game you once loved every two years in the form of Dreadfleet and charge you a ridiculous amount of money for something we will NEVER support...suckers! Hahahahaha!"

I loathe you GW and GW shareholders....I loathe you. I'm glad I just recently bought the Warmaster book for nothing....Thanks GW turds...

That email with exactly the above text would be a step up from their behavior thus far.
Our sister, http://www.specialist-arms.com has a pretty thriving Warmaster community that probably can help you out.

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