Leaving aside the Queen Rhapsody lament....
It seems that the BFG Protectors are sold out, which annoys me no end. My own fault I guess. I use them for EA Tau Morays. I called FW yesterday...
- me; "I wonder if the web site lists something as sold out, if it really is totally sold out."
- FW; "Is this Epic, Battlefleet Gothic or Aeronautica?"
So, yeah, not their first call and question, I think! He did confirm that they were running down all these three lines and that when they were gone, they were gone.
While I agree that there are a load of perfectly good proxies out there, and we should be drawing on these more, in some cases I have some minis I need, but not enough, and my OCD only wants one design for each, so I may have to grab a few things today. Luckily, there is not a lot that I really need right now.
Spectrar Ghost wrote:
From a community stance, I worry about the effect this will have on recruitment and retention. It appears people can no longer get into epic without trawling ebay. It's not true, and choices are only increasing, but fluff/appearance are important to many, and using the 'correct' model is a habit drilled into GW recruits. We lose a subset of potential and (possibly) existing players by losing easy access to GW's ranges.
What we as a community do about this will have a significant impact on Epic's future. We need to get it right. I think a catalogue of existing manufacturers and independant designers on the NetEA website with some suggestions (think Epic Proxy List MkII but less exhaustive) would be a good start. A place to point and say "look, just about anything you want can be found here".
carlisimo109 wrote:
It may be time to transition from “Epic” to “6mm general”. I wouldn’t have thought that way – I’m pretty entrenched in the 40k universe – but the similarity between E:A and Exodus Wars’s rules might make it possible. We’ve been using EW figures in Epic games… maybe it’s time to use our Epic figures in EW battles.
uberChris wrote:
I fully agree with others on this thread, that we should tap the many talents of our members to create proxies to fill the void left by G.W. Rather than letting G.W. "shat" on us with it's final grand gesture of indifference, we at Taccom should take control of our hobbies' future with model-makers and collectors giving a big, defiant middle finger to the SOB's.
This is something that I will be turning my mind to shortly. We need to be co-ordinated and organised, and make sure that we are positive going forwards.
The first stage of this will be the setup of the TacCmd mini catalogue (which I am unofficially calling 'TO&E'ing the Line'). I have a few ideas of my own, but I welcome any discussion on moving forwards and ideas involving this site and these boards.
carlisimo109 wrote:
Unless we’re going to saddle one person with the task, I think it would have to be a wiki, so any of us can update it at will. We’ve talked about that before, creating a wiki with sample army lists and advice for new players. Either way, to avoid walls of text I’d recommend that the link be hidden in the model’s name, rather than being a separate URL.
Alternatively, we take an opposite approach and compile all the manufacturers we know of and summarize their product ranges, including what Epic figures they might look like. I think that’d be healthier – it’d give them more exposure, and new players going to those websites would be more likely to look at their ranges as a whole, rather than individual pieces to snipe for use in the 40k universe.
While I appreciate the proactive nature, I would caution against starting any endeavour just yet. I think that it is best that we discuss the way forwards and wait for the dust to settle for a couple of days before starting threads or wiki's or whatever. Lets get some ideas discussed, and work out a productive way forwards, and not start threads or assign people to tasks yet. We need to work out what is needed, and how best to go about it first.
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