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MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?
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Author:  LordotMilk [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:04 pm ]
Post subject:  MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

It's all in the thread title!

Confusion comes from the fact that MW doesn't care about any difference between AP or AT targets outside of barrage...

4+ use has some good unit arguments too:
- Makes the Cobra useful.
- Makes the Soopa Gunz useful

But there are arguments against it too (hear me, decimator?).

So what shall it be in the ONERCRRK (Offical NetERC Realm of Rules Keeping)? :geek

Author:  Ginger [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

Don't take this as gospel.

However, I would suggest that you use both. The existing barrage table uses the target type to determine the score needed to get a hit (AP4+ and AT5+). All you need to do is to treat any hits as MW hits.

Author:  Dave [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

What Ginger said.

Once upon a time we tested it where MW barrage used the AP column for everything but that was too good.

Author:  LordotMilk [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

Thanks!

Author:  Iron Duke [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

The rules (Barrage rules) say, that you use the AP column..

Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

Quote:
The rules (Barrage rules) say, that you use the AP column..

Only if you're using unofficial house rules.

Author:  Dave [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

What are you using Iron Duke? The old Epic Compendiums (Markconz and Hojyn) might have those trial rules in there.

Author:  Iron Duke [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

Hi,

I use the epicarmageddonhandbook2008 pdf. It says under 1.9.8 Barrages

"The Barrage table lists the hit roll required to hit each unit under the Barrage template. Macro-weapons (see 2.2.6) always use the AP to hit roll value when firing on any type of unit. Roll to hit all units (friend or foe) under the template with the appropriate to hit values. In order to speed dice rolling we recommend rolling to hit all units of exactly the same type together, and then removing any casualties from those closest to the enemy first."

Author:  zombocom [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

Yeah, those are the old experimental rules, not the official ones.

Author:  Dobbsy [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

My question is do OBs get modifiers to hit for cover etc? If so, 4+MW across the board isn't that great. If not, I've been playing them wrong :D

Author:  zombocom [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MW Barrage of 3 points against AV: 4+ or 5+ to hit?

MW BPs do not ignore cover modifiers by default, no.

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