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| Author: | AgeingHippy [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
Hi All Assuming a formation is on overwatch and gets assaulted, with some of the assaulting formation possibly getting into CC on their charge move. Does the overwatch formation get to shoot before taking any counter charge moves? Thanks |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
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| Author: | madd0ct0r [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
Cannon to right of them, Cannon to left of them, Cannon in front of them Volley'd and thunder'd; Storm'd at with shot and shell, Boldly they rode and well, Into the jaws of Death, Into the mouth of hell Rode the six hundred. |
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| Author: | Onyx [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
Just remember that if infantry from the assaulting formation get into base contact with a vehicle (enemy or friendly) after their charge move, the overwatch fire suffers the -1 to hit modifier. |
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| Author: | Jaggedtoothgrin [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
onyx: got a page reference for that particular gem, cause i cant see anything to that effect? |
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| Author: | carlos [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
I'd never seen that rule either! |
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| Author: | Mephiston [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
It was extensively discussed earlier this year here. I think the consensus view was that inf could claim the cover -1 from AV's no matter what side owns them. I think this was to be added to the master FAQ, and may already have been. |
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| Author: | Onyx [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
It makes sense aswell as keeping within the rules. If a unit on Overwatch was shooting at an enemy unit that was close to friendly vehicles, it would have to be more careful with it's shooting. The -1 reflects lower volumes of fire. |
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| Author: | Ulrik [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
Onyx wrote: It makes sense aswell as keeping within the rules. If a unit on Overwatch was shooting at an enemy unit that was close to friendly vehicles, it would have to be more careful with it's shooting. The -1 reflects lower volumes of fire. Not really, as they would have to be more careful if they were close to friendly infantry, which doesn't give -1 to hit. But the vehicles do provide cover. |
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| Author: | Mephiston [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
AgeingHippy wrote: Hi All Assuming a formation is on overwatch and gets assaulted, with some of the assaulting formation possibly getting into CC on their charge move. Does the overwatch formation get to shoot before taking any counter charge moves? Thanks Overwatch can be taken when an enemy formation end's any move in line of sight and range, the fact that they happen to be in base to base here is irrelevant. And you do shoot overwatch before counter charges happen. |
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| Author: | Onyx [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
Ulrik wrote: Onyx wrote: It makes sense aswell as keeping within the rules. If a unit on Overwatch was shooting at an enemy unit that was close to friendly vehicles, it would have to be more careful with it's shooting. The -1 reflects lower volumes of fire. Not really, as they would have to be more careful if they were close to friendly infantry, which doesn't give -1 to hit.  Infantry are much more easily replaced  Fact remains, the rule is as I stated. |
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| Author: | Mephiston [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
viewtopic.php?f=69&t=19799 Is where the discussion seems to have taken place if you want to read up.. |
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| Author: | Ulrik [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assaulting formation on overwatch ??? |
Onyx wrote: Yes really Infantry are much more easily replaced Fact remains, the rule is as I stated. Your explanation doesn't make sense, but the rules are as you stated 
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