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Interesting thread on GW OOP/unreleased minis
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Author:  zedmeister [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:13 pm ]
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Just reading this thread: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294157 is quite an eye opener. I'm suprised that GW don't move a little quicker in opening their back catalogue up again. They've been doing it, but sooo slowly. Some quotes:

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So in Lenton down the hall from the mold room there are two rooms, closets really, stacked with boxes of masters of both released and unreleased miniatures. One of them was almost predominantly Specialist games masters. Boxes and boxes of tins for models which are not even int he range or being sold as archive models.

Also, the number of unreleased models GW has is astounding.

As for Memphis, as of me leaving in July 2007, there were TONS of molds for everything from old catalogs like the original High Elves, Wood Elves, RT era Space Orks, Man o' War, Epic (original, mid and newer ranges).


Wonder how many Epic molds sit there unreleased.

Author:  zombocom [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:21 pm ]
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I know of at least one entire army that was never released but completely made and moulded.

Author:  Spectrar Ghost [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:23 pm ]
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Who?

Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:23 pm ]
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Most if not all of the unreleased Epic molds were destroyed AFAIK ... That's what G/W USA had told us a long time ago ?! :-\ I was fortunate that I had a friend that worked at G/W in Maryland a ways back. And so I got some unreleased or limited released Epic ... ;D

Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:23 pm ]
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Most if not all of the unreleased Epic molds were destroyed AFAIK ... That's what G/W USA had told us a long time ago

They lied.

Author:  zombocom [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:24 pm ]
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Evil and Chaos wrote:
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Most if not all of the unreleased Epic molds were destroyed AFAIK ... That's what G/W USA had told us a long time ago

They lied.


They weren't destroyed, but many seem to have been lost.

Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:25 pm ]
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No surprised ... ::) BTW ... Here's a link with some unreleased ... most of the painted ones are mine ... ;) http://www.collecting-citadel-miniature ... Unreleased Here's another link ... These were limited released ... the Cobra, Falcons & Dropship are mine. I also have the aircraft, metal Epic SMs, Eldar Titans, Warlord Mk.II weapons and Exodites pictured here, but those are not mine - http://www.collecting-citadel-miniature ... ed_Release ;D

Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:33 pm ]
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zombocom wrote:
Evil and Chaos wrote:
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Most if not all of the unreleased Epic molds were destroyed AFAIK ... That's what G/W USA had told us a long time ago

They lied.


They weren't destroyed, but many seem to have been lost.

I sincerely doubt they were lost.

Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:41 pm ]
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And ... Here's an interesting link ... http://www.collecting-citadel-miniature ... /Main_Page

Author:  Steve54 [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:46 pm ]
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From stuff I've seen there were ranges for both the templars (characters, robed marines, lr crusader, several neophytes, neophyte biker at least) and blood angels (characters, baal, furioso) I've even got some preds with BA icons on that were erroneously cast up as normal preds.

I very much doubt anything has been destroyed or lost - more of a tactic to curb requests etc

Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:15 pm ]
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Sneaky muthers ... they are ... :P

Author:  semajnollissor [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:43 pm ]
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This info just makes it extra weird that some of the E:A era metal models were clearly molded off of a cast model and not an original model, because they have double mold lines, as if they were a dupe.

Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:15 pm ]
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Steve54 wrote:
From stuff I've seen there were ranges for both the templars (characters, robed marines, lr crusader, several neophytes, neophyte biker at least) and blood angels (characters, baal, furioso) I've even got some preds with BA icons on that were erroneously cast up as normal preds.

Yup. I was got some of those hulls too, and will convert them to being the Baals they always should have been!

Author:  zombocom [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:17 pm ]
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semajnollissor wrote:
This info just makes it extra weird that some of the E:A era metal models were clearly molded off of a cast model and not an original model, because they have double mold lines, as if they were a dupe.


For a lot of the EA era models, they put together one of the multi-component E40k models and then cast it as one or two pieces, hence the dual mould lines and reduced quality.

Author:  zedmeister [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:41 am ]
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All those molds. All that invested time and effort languishing, earning them no cash. I have heard a few unsubstantiated rumours of some models that may exist:

- A new lord of battles model produced for 2nd edition
- SG Salamander and Baneblade
- I also heard a good chunk of Chaos Marine vehicles were done for E:A but are sat there un-molded. What a waste!


Now, I am not naivie to think that all the molds they have will generate returns, but lets consider two models that they could shift (they seem to go for a good amount on Ebay)

- The original Marauder Giant
- The Mk1 Epic Gargant with all options

Surely it's not that prohibative in cost to get old models like those above back into production? I assume there will be an element of mold recreation, test runs, recataloguing and the like. What would they cost GW and how long does it take to put them back into production?

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