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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:57 pm 
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Hi Everyone!

I've decided now that I have some IG, Orks, and Nids ready for playing E-A that I need some SMs.

I've started a chapter of Crimson Fists.

Any idea where to find background on them?

How about Silver Skulls?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:52 am 
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There was an Index Astartes article about the Crimson Fists in the (UK) WD288. They also starred in the WH40K Rogue Trader introductory scenario found in the rulebook.

About Silver Skulls there is no fluff I know of.  :(  Except the one bit I made myself for Net Epic.  :;):

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:23 am 
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I seem to recall that the Silver Skulls were descended from Ultramarine gene-seed.  It's not much, bit it's something.

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That's true and according to GW fluff they are a Codex chapter. Plus I just recovered another tidbit. In the Index Astartes article about the creation of a Space Marine there is a piece of fluff about an inquisitor making a routine purity check to the Silver Skulls and the name of their homeworld is mentioned in the text: Varsavia.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:31 pm 
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This topic was cross-posted:

Crimson Fists on Epicoms 40k Background

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:36 pm 
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Thanks for all of the help so far guys!

So...

Silver Skulls - Ultramrine gene seed
- Unknown Rogue Trader mention...

Crimson Fists - Imperial Fists gene seed
- White Dwarf, issue 288.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:18 pm 
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I seem to remember a painting article a while ago, where someone in WD was collecting a Crimson Fist force and listed a bit of background. But, all that I can remember is that the average trooper had a single fist in crimson, the the officers and higher ranks had both crimson.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:09 am 
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I just recalled that there is a bit of Crimson fists fluff in the Fluff Bible. I hope you have it, if not then it's been uploaded to epica yahoogroup under the fluff directory in the files section a while ago.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:17 am 
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Wasn't the crimson fist some thing to do with the pain glove Rogal Dorn used?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:54 am 
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Nope.
It's related with the ritual of cutting palms of the new recruits and dorn's hands and mixing the blood.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:26 pm 
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Ok - I must have been confused then....... wouldn't be the first time!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:24 pm 
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Quote (CyberShadow @ 07 2004 July,22:18)
I seem to remember a painting article a while ago, where someone in WD was collecting a Crimson Fist force and listed a bit of background. But, all that I can remember is that the average trooper had a single fist in crimson, the the officers and higher ranks had both crimson.

The back cover of (UK) WD 234 features Dave Taylor's Crimson Fists, which include a simple, but nice conversion of Captain Cortez (which looks better than the horrible new GW mini imo)... and as noted by CS, only the officers have two fists red- all the normal troops leave the right hand blue.

A look back at 'Eavy Metal from WD 94 (which was also when the original RTB01 marines came out) has all marines with both hands red however, and they have a red stripe down the middle of their helmets as well... guess its up to you to decide what guide you want to follow!  :;):

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:55 pm 
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Thanks AGAIN for all of the help so far guys!

So...

Silver Skulls - Ultramarine gene seed
- Unknown Rogue Trader mention...

Crimson Fists - Imperial Fists gene seed
- White Dwarf, issue 94.
--- article: 'Skirmish on Rynn's World'
--- scenario: 'Fists vs Orks - 'The Battle of Jadeberry Hill'
--- 'Eavy Metal: (which was also when the original RTB01 marines came out) has all marines with both hands red however, and they have a red stripe down the middle of their helmets as well...

- White Dwarf UK, issue 234.
--- back cover: Features Dave Taylor's Crimson Fists, which include a simple, but nice conversion of Captain Cortez (which looks better than the horrible new GW mini in my opinion)...

- White Dwarf UK, issue 235.
--- article: 'Bloodied Fist: The Rynn's World Incident'
--- article: 'Fists, the battles and more'

- White Dwarf, issue 288.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:06 pm 
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- White Dwarf UK, issue 235.
--- article: 'Bloodied Fist: The Rynn's World Incident'
--- article: 'Fists, the battles and more'


I think you misinterpreted me a bit there Maksim- the second bit was just my description of the 'Bloodied Fist' article, not a seperate one... :;):

Have you managed to track down any of the WDs etc which have been mentioned?

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Hi Stormseer,

Have you managed to track down any of the WDs etc which have been mentioned?


No. I wish...

Of course, I haven't asked L-4 for xeroxes yet either...

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