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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:28 am 
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Hello there. This is my first post here. I was thinking of adding a Rough Rider formation to my IG army but I do not like the horse minis. I was thinking of using Salamander scout tanks since I already have them. They were given to me by a friend and there are six tanks. This is the same amount as the RR formation. What I am asking is if anyone sees any problem or complication in using Salamander tanks in a "counts as" proxy for Rough Riders. Many thanks in advance.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:56 am 
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no problem at all, you would need to inform your opponent when you play, but shouldn't be a problem

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:01 pm 
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The only smallish problem is that ytou should base them in the same size. As long as you do that, there is unlikely to be any poblems. Tell your opponment in advance in any case :)

Other proxies, more suitable to prevent confusions is searching for 6mm motorbike miniatures. DOn't know if they exist, but a motorbike formation can look really cool on the battlefield. Maybe using ork bikes with IG riders?

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Hi!

Welcome to the boards rabidfox. :)

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If it works for "almost always right" Jimbo then it works for me! :D

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Nice Sturmtiger R/F ! ?I agree ... if your gaming crew agrees, then go for it ! ?But I feel the stats for R/R (guys on horses) vs. AFVs should be modified to reflect that. ?Horse flesh vs. heavy metal ! ?The stats are different. But if you are just talking filling a slot that normally should be R/R with Sallies, fine ... but the stats shouldn't be the same ... ???

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Welcome Rabidfox,

I use the old IG bikes for my RR units. I love the look of the old model combined with the visual of the line of bikes. Further, there is not chance the person I am playing would mix them up for anything else.

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I see you point, and I am not a huge fan of the Rough Rider minis either. However, I wouldnt necessarily use Salamaders, because they already have stats in the game, and are the different size. I would look around for other cavalry from other makers, or see if you can find bikers. How about Marine bikers with the riders replaced? Or converted Sentinels? Special dreadnoughts?

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Rabidfox,

Here is a picture with the plastic marine bikes and above it is the IG bike. Check it out:



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Well, technically, you shouldnt use Salamanders since, as Cyber said, they already have stats in the game (i assume we are talking about Epic:Armageddon here).  The bikers pictured above would work nicely.   Or, alternately, you could use some soft skin vehicles like Humvees or such from  other vendors.   They would work okay, and not be too far off from what the IG is anyway.

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1/285 scale jeeps from WWII should work nicely. They may be small enough to mount on a base.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:39 am 
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Many thanks for the warm welcome!
The only reason I figured on Salamander is because I had them and had factored out horses in the small bit of fluff I wanted to write about the army. Basicly its a machine based army ala Adeptus Mechanicus but of course using the printed rules for SL IG. I thought it would give the army a different flavor using the proxy RR to reflect the strong influence of tanks. I have been keeping my eyes open for IG bikes and even IG assault troopers to also use. No luck on Ebay so far. If anyone out there has enough bikes or IG assault troops to fill out the six stand formation please let me know. :D  I like the IG bikes but not the Space Marine ones. Just cant find them. :{


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Hi!

Doesn't Irregular make some 6mm cavalry that could be converted as rough riders?

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An other idea if you don't like the rough riders: look at the range for warmaster models. There is plenty of different kinds of cavalry there. With minimal conversion, or simply with some nice painting to match your force they should work as trough riders.

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Wouldnt the warmaster ones be too big Xavi? They are 10mm. Then again epic is known for its coherency with scale.... :;):

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