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Author:  Kaptain O [ Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:06 pm ]
Post subject:  3000 pts Marines for Tourney

Hi, this may be out of place but i noticed the 1st/2nd ed SM forums hadn't had traffic in over a month so I posted here.  I have been playing epic since 1st edition and am getting into the Epic Armageddon rules, they seem solid - however I would like to get my hands on the old 1st ed rules (mmmm nostalgia) if anyone has a pdf or knows where I can get ahold of them please let me know!!

thanks in advance!

Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:29 pm ]
Post subject:  3000 pts Marines for Tourney

Hi and welcome.

The file is approx 1,8 mb. If you have enough storage in you E-mail inbox it shouldn't be a problem. :)

Cheers!:)

Author:  Kaptain O [ Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:21 pm ]
Post subject:  3000 pts Marines for Tourney

sure do

rhodry_ac@yahoo.co.uk

thanks much!!

Author:  primarch [ Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  3000 pts Marines for Tourney

Hi!

Contact me directly at:

primarch@caribe.net

Primarch

Author:  -AL [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:23 am ]
Post subject:  3000 pts Marines for Tourney

This list is intended to be competative with added bonus of making for a cool storyline for afterwards.

Tac. squad   300
Tac. squad   300
 
Dev. squad   250
with Chaplain  50
Assult sqd.   175
Thunderhawk 200

Terminaitors  325
Terminators   325
with Chaplain   50
Terminators   325
with Supreme Comander 100

Whirlwind 300

Thunderbolts  150
Thunderbolts  150

I'll take this force to the same tournament that Clockwerks is taking his Eldar to, and that QuintAan is bring his Chaos to.  Astute observers will note that this force is for 3000, as the tourney has gone up by 300 pts.

All coments are welcome and apriciated, but my model collection is a little tight.

Author:  Markconz [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:28 am ]
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I like it :)

Author:  wargame_insomniac [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  3000 pts Marines for Tourney

Quote (-AL @ 31 2005 July,02:23)
This list is intended to be competative with added bonus of making for a cool storyline for afterwards.

Tac. squad ? 300
Tac. squad ? 300
?
Dev. squad ? 250
with Chaplain ?50
Assult sqd. ? 175
Thunderhawk 200

Terminaitors ?325
Terminators ? 325
with Chaplain ? 50
Terminators ? 325
with Supreme Comander 100

Whirlwind 300

Thunderbolts ?150
Thunderbolts ?150

I'll take this force to the same tournament that Clockwerks is taking his Eldar to, and that QuintAan is bring his Chaos to. ?Astute observers will note that this force is for 3000, as the tourney has gone up by 300 pts.

All coments are welcome and apriciated, but my model collection is a little tight.

Surprised if Chaplain is with Devastators which is the way it reads. I presume you mean Chaplain with Assault Squad?

Author:  nealhunt [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  3000 pts Marines for Tourney

Once deployed, you will be very static.  The air assault troops and the termies will all be on foot.  This will make it a challenging force to win with.

Strategically, I would group my objectives together and know that I would likely have to go for less-than-choice targets in order to make sure the sloggers can grab the territory they need to win.


As far as selection, I would also put the Chaplain with the Assault marines.  That way he can use his CCMW attack in addition to the Inspiring bonus.  I understand the desire to preserve him for the +1 Inspiring bonus, but given your necessary game plan, the "banzai" air assault will be a bad idea and even in an assault stand he is likely to survive.

Author:  The_Ape [ Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:46 pm ]
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I would drop the third terminator squad and take another tactical squad

Author:  netepic [ Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:24 pm ]
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Quote (The_Ape @ 02 2005 Aug.,12:46)
I would drop the third terminator squad and take another tactical squad

Ditto - and lose the chaplin with the devestators....

They should avoid combat, period. A librarian on the other hand can be nasty if you are gonna use them for firefights.

Author:  Legion 4 [ Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:24 pm ]
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Yes, I agree, I think you'll lack mobility ...   And Devs should never get into C/Cbt ... Don't get caught up in the "40K syndrome", where everything must go into C/Cbt and ignore ranged weapons/firepower ...   :)

Author:  -AL [ Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  3000 pts Marines for Tourney

Thanks for the comments!
Sadly, I don't have any more tactical squads :(  

I've always put the chapie in with the assulters, but though I would try something new so that he would survive longer.  Having him back with the attacky element does seem more dramatic.

Are you suggesting the Devs not be in the Hawk so that they can shoot stuff elsewhere?

Author:  QuintAan [ Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:00 pm ]
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The problem I see with Devs in the Thunderhawk is that they become tied to the assault and are generally spent whether or not the assault succeeded. If the assault fails like it has twice against my chaos marines, they are quite dead for all intents and purposes.

I would field the devs as a unit in rhinos and use their mobility and firepower. That way you have less tied into the thunderhawk and less need to use it in turn 2 in an assault role.

Author:  -AL [ Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:14 pm ]
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Well, so far this list has served me well.  Its alot of fun to watch the marines take it in the nose on the first turn, then experience a dramatic rescue by the terminators!  They just look sooo cool plopping down amoungst the smug foe's forces.

I've been pretty lucky winning first turn which helps alot, but I always deploy them as if I won't..,ie in cover and near multiple targets in case some flee.

They are 3 for 3, taking IG in 4 turns, Ulthawai (sp?) Eldar (2-0), and Chaos (3-0).  This marked my first win against Eldar in a long time, and first ever against Chaos.

Author:  QuintAan [ Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:21 pm ]
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Grrrr, if only I had won the initative in turn 2 my chaos would still be undefeated against you I bet!!! :;):

Yeah, have 60 terminators teleport on your position can really ruin any chaos lord's day. Breaking the two decimators and then utterly smacking the defiler/marines formation before I even got a chance to blink saved your bacon. :laugh:

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