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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:44 pm 
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There are other Eldar lists in development, I heard Ulthwe is being sent in for final approval. I'd go with Eldar and collect an army built to suit your idea of Eldar, effectiveness be damned. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:45 pm 
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Orks versus Imperial Guard is a classic match-up.  I would choose the IG.

Making a fan list could work.  But wouldn't a new player be more comfortable using a well proven list?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:58 pm 
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Squared, first of all, a hearty welcome!  :D

There is no rule that says you have to paint all of your minis. Most of mine are still unpainted and I've been playing epic since its inception. I would go with IG for the reasons you mention, easy for a newbie to learn and its a well balanced army.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:43 pm 
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Oh yeah, hello forum folk.

First off, yes I do have to paint the army: personal rule.

Secondly the fan list would be for me to play.  I don't mind playing against a powerful army, I just do not like to win because of my army.  My opponent can pick what ever army list he wants, just so long as I have the models.

Oh and I agree with clauswitz.  That match up is classic and is the reason why I have not yet decided.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:50 pm 
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Good job Squared, I have the same rule! I simply -cannot- feild a unit in my army that hasn't been painted now, it just looks horrible and more often then not I'll make sure it's the first casuality so I can send it's offending self back to my case as soon as possible.

Both the IG and the Eldar are extremely good armies. The IG are my most feared enemy as an Eldar player. They have artillery, large infantry formations, large tank formations and a good amount of upgrades.

The Eldar are an absolute joy to play. They're beautiful, extremely versatile in that you've got SO many choices at your disposal and you'll never get bored of them as a result. However, they are a punishing army to come back from should you make tactical blunders.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:27 am 
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IG. For a new player they are the best as they have no specialy rules to remember once the game has started.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:09 am 
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To be honest, IG is my army of choice, but that is not why I would select it to be the second army. I think the IG is one of the less subtle armies. It is pretty clean and clear. Simple to use and simple to win with if you understand the game.

That is why I would select IG.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:08 pm 
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I play/have 9 Epic Armies ! :;):  But not a "Primarchload" Yes, the SMs, IG, Orks and Eldar are "classics" !  :D :;):

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:28 am 
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I would recommend IG as well.

The lack of special rules is the winner for me everytime. Also you get more units for your points, most of the time :p  so losing a unit or two isn't as devestating as for Eldar.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:41 am 
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IG are also quite attention-getting, and may help you attract more players to the game.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:16 am 
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Also remember for people not used to the fluff etc the IG are conceptually easy to understand. The IG have tanks, infantry and artillery which are all common concepts in modern military thinking. If you had Eldar you'd have to constantly explain what a "warhost" and "troop" are, as well as mucking around explaining how skimmers are different to other vehicles.

Basically people can relate to IG easier, same applies to Imperial Navy in Gothic IMHO. A newbie can vaguely guess what a tank is good at just because it's a tank, and so on.
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dafrca
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:36 am 
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Good point cx2.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:45 am 
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Yes, the IG has lots of Grunts, FA and AFVs.  They are generally easist to use and can survive a little "bungling" ... :D

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dafrca
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:17 pm 
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Although some have said Marines are not a good starting army, That is the army I started with and it was not bad. I would avoid Eldar and Chaos as a newbie starting out because of all the additional things to remember etc.

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Squared
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:57 am 
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Thanks all for your replys.  I have decided to do an IG armored force.  Partially because it is an easy army to use and is very forgiving but also because one of my friends is a WWII history buff and the IG would fit that theme.  Also a large bludgeon is more his style anyways.

Anyways here is the IG army that I was contemplating:

Tank Co
Storm Troops with Valkaryie
Infantry Co w/ Firesupport
Infantry Co w/ Ogryns
Super Heavy Tank Co w/ 3 LR Demolishers
2x Artillery Batteries
Hydra Battery

Total: 3000

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