Hi NealHunt,
definitely interested to see it - I think you'd have to paste it as text, but higher intellects than mine could perhaps be more conclusive.
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Thousand Sons List |
In light of the recent semi-official inclusion of Silver Towers and the overall progression of the chaos lists and miniature lines, I have revised my Thousand Sons list. I will be posting a new version on the Yahoo sites that host such stuff. I wanted to know if you guys wanted me to try to post it here. If so, is there a way to post the Word doc, or will I have to reformat it to put it in as text? |
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| Author: | Magnus [ Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:44 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Thousand Sons List | ||
Uhm, which progression? Last I checked, epic chaos minis won't be out until 2006 at best.... |
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| Author: | vanvlak [ Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Thousand Sons List |
Hi NealHunt, definitely interested to see it - I think you'd have to paste it as text, but higher intellects than mine could perhaps be more conclusive.
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Thousand Sons List |
Jervis and crew's latest word on the chaos line is that there son't be a new sculpt on infantry sprues. ?That means the lists are being modified to conform to the existing sprue composition. For example, there will not be Horror and Screamer units. ?Flamers and LoChange will be the only Tzeentch daemon units. Also, as the budget for new sculpts is limited, more of the old figs will probably be made available and the LatD list will be adding official Silver Tower stats. Plus, I think my new design is more in keeping with the design philosophy that Jervis has professed - only 2 new units (Rubric Terminators and Cabal Sorcerers), 2 new upgrades (Thrall Wizards and Warp Flame) and no new special rules. I dropped some of the units as superfluous, and replaced others with rough equivalents that have been added to the lists in the past few months. For example, rather than have a Tzeentch Sorcerer Lord upgrade, I just included a mandatory Chaos Lord and Sorcerer upgrade in each infantry formation. |
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Thousand Sons List |
In plain text: THOUSAND SONS ARMY LIST Strategy Rating 2D6+1 IMPORTANT: If you roll a double on the dice (i.e. two 1?s or two 2?s etc), then the Chaos Gods have smiled upon you and you may add one sacrifice point to any formation in the army (see summoned units below). Initiative Rating Thousand Sons formations have an initiative rating of 1+. Factions All Thousand Sons are followers of Tzeentch. Summoned Units As Chaos. The type of unit that can be summoned are: Lord of Change, Flamers Note that no more than 3 sacrifices may be used by a formation in a single turn, including Thrall Wizards used as sacrifices. RUBRIC TERMINATORS Type Speed Armour Close Combat Firefight Infantry 15cm 4+ 3+ 3+ Weapons: Combi-bolters & power weapons Weapon Range Firepower Combi-Bolters (15cms) Small Arms Power Weapons (base contact) Assault Weapons, macro-weapon, extra attacks (+1) Notes: Reinforced Armour. Thick Rear Armour. Fearless, Invulnerability Save, Teleport THOUSAND SONS CABAL SORCERERS Type Speed Armour Close Combat Firefight Infantry 15cm 4+ 4+ 4+ Weapons: Bolters & Chainswords Weapon Range Firepower Autocannon 45cm AP5+/AT6+ Psychic Powers (15cms) Small Arms, Extra Attk (+1) OR (base contact) Assault Weapons, Extra Attk (+1) Notes: May use Thrall Wizards. SILVER TOWERS OF TZEENTCH Type Speed Armour Close Combat Firefight AV 15cm 4+ 4+ 3+ Weapons: Sorcerous Bolts (x3) Weapon Range Firepower Tzeentch Cannons 45cm 3xAP4+/AT4+ Beam of Power 60cm MW5+ Notes: Skimmer, Invulnerable Save, Fearless DOOMWING FIGHTER Type Speed Armour Close Combat Firefight Aircraft fighter 5+ na na Weapons: Flamecannon (FxF) Weapon Range Firepower Flamecannon 15cm AP4/+AT5+/AA5+, ignore cover, Fixed Forward Arc Notes: Invulnerable Save FIRELORD BOMBER Type Speed Armour Close Combat Firefight Aircraft bomber 4+ na na Weapons: Twin Lascannon (FxF), Flamecannon, (FxF), Firestorm Bomb Rack (FxF) Weapon Range Firepower Twin Lascannon 45cm AT4+/AA4+, Fixed Forward Arc Flamecannon 15cm AT4+AT5+/AA5+, ignore cover, Fixed Forward Arc Firestorm Bombs 15cm 2BP, ignore cover, Fixed Forward Arc Notes: Invulnerable Save SUNS OF DAMNATION TITAN LEGION Initiative Rating Suns of Damnation titans have an initiative rating of 1+. Factions All Suns of Damnation are followers of Tzeentch. SUNS OF DAMNATION WARLORD CLASS BATTLE TITAN as Warlord Weapons: 2 turbo-laser destructor (FxF) , 1 arm-mounted volcano cannon (FF), 1 arm-mounted gatling blaster (FF) . Weapon Range Firepower Turbo-Las Destr 45cm 4 x AP5+/AT3+ Inferno Gun 30cm 3BP, macro-weapon, ignore cover Volcano Cannon 90cm MW2+, Titan killer (D3) SUNS OF DAMNATION REAVER CLASS BATTLE TITAN as Reaver Weapons: 1 rocket launcher (FxF), 2 arm-mounted turbo-laser destructors (FF). Weapon Range Firepower Turbo-Las Destr 45cm 4 x AP5+/AT3+ Inferno Gun 30cm 3BP, macro-weapon, ignore cover SUNS OF DAMNATION WARHOUND CLASS SCOUT TITAN as Warnound Weapons: 1 arm-mounted Vulcan mega-bolter (FF), 1 arm-mounted plasma blastgun (FF) . Weapon Range Firepower Vulcan Meg-Bolt 45cm 4 x AP3+/AT5+ Inferno Gun 30cm 3BP, macro-weapon, ignore cover 7.5.2 Using The Army List One Thousand Sons Chaos Lord character in the army must be upgraded to a Thousand Sons Warlord character. This additional upgrade does not cost any additional points. Thousand Sons Formations Formation Type, Units, UPGRADES ALLOWED, Points Cost Thousand Sons Retinue 1 Chaos Space marine stand with Lord and Sorcerer upgrades and 8 Thousand Sons units Rhinos, Dreadnought, Defiler, Dreadclaws, Chaos Land Raiders, Sacrifices, Thrall Wizards, Icon Bearer, Daemon Prince 350 points 0-1 Thousand Sons Rubric Terminators 1 Lord and 1 Sorcerer upgrade and 4-6 Rubric Terminator units Dreadnought, Defiler, Dreadclaws, Chaos Land Raiders, Sacrifices, Thrall Wizards, Icon Bearer, Daemon Prince 65 points each 0-1 Thousand Sons Chosen 1 Lord and 1 Sorcerer upgrade and 4-6 Chosen units Dreadnought, Defiler, Dreadclaws, Chaos Land Raiders, Sacrifices, Thrall Wizards, Icon Bearer, Daemon Prince 50 points + 65 per unit 0-1 Thousand Sons Disc Riders 1 Lord and 1 Sorcerer upgrade and 9 raptor units Sacrifices 350 points 0-1 Sorcerous Cabal 1 Lord and 1 Sorcerer upgrade and 9 Cabal Sorcerer units Rhinos, Dreadnought, Defiler, Dreadclaws, Chaos Land Raiders, Sacrifices, Thrall Wizards, Icon Bearer, Daemon Prince 450 points Thousand Sons Armour 4 to 9 Chaos Predators and/or Land Raiders Warp Flame 50 points per Predator and 75 points per Land Raider Silver Tower Company 4 to 9 silver Towers None 65 per unit Thousand Sons Upgrades Upgrade, Units, Cost Rhinos Up to 5 rhinos. 10 points each Chaos Land Raider Up to 4 land Raiders 75 points each Defiler Up to three Defilers 75 points each Dreadnought Up to three Dreadnoughts 50 points each Thrall Wizards Up to two thrall wizards Thrall Wizards can serve two purposes. They can be used as sacrifices, or they may add the following weapon to any Thousand Sons Sorcerer, including Cabal Sorcerers: Weapon Range Firepower Sorcerous Power na Asslt Wpn, +1 Attk, MW OR (15cm) Small Arms, +1 Attk, MW Either use expends the thrall wizard. No more than 3 sacrifices may be used per turn by a single formation, including thrall wizards used as sacrifices. 50 points each Sacrifices Up to three Sacrifices 25 points each Icon Bearer One Icon Bearer Upgrade 50 points Dreadclaws 10 points per unit in the formation Warp Flame Warp Flame assault weapon with the following statistics is added to each vehicle in the unit: Weapon Range Firepower Warp Flame na Assault Wpn, +1 Extra Attk +15 points per vehicle Daemon Prince Replace the unit in the formation that includes the Chaos Lord or Warlod character with a Daemon Prince Unit. Note that Thousand Sons Daemon Princes replacing Lords or Warlods with the Sorcerer upgrade also gain the Sorcerer upgrade. Thousand Sons War Engines and Aircraft (1/3 points) Suns of Damnation Warlord Titan (850 points each) Suns of Damnation Reaver Titan (650 points each) Suns of Damnation Warhound Titan (250 points each) Doomwing Interceptors (150 points for three) One to three Firelord Bombers (150 points each) Devastation Class Cruiser (150 points) Despoiler Class Battleship (250 points) |
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Fri May 27, 2005 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Thousand Sons List |
The list is now posted in the vault on the epic website: http://www.specialist-games.com/epic/vault.asp It's in .doc format, with commentary balloons in the margins based on issues I've identified. It's very much in line with previous versions, but I'd still like feedback on the adjustments and especially on the issues where I inserted commentary. Thanks. |
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