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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units  Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:06 pm |
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Hi!
The centurion models would make great slan proxies since most of it is grav type vehicles.
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:44 am |
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| Quote (primarch @ 13 2003 Sep.,22:34) | Hi!
I once heard "communism" was just a longer more painful route to reach capitalism....
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I am going to regret saying this. But I'm still going to say it...
There is a reason why "Capitalism" works somewhat better than "Communism". Capitalism is based on the premise of human selfishness and greed. Because this basic foundation of human nature has been got right, and built upon, it works.
Communism, OTOH, makes the same mistake as the humanistic philosophy, namely thinking that there are totally unselfish human beings around. The thing practiced in Soviet Union, however, ?should be called "Red Fascism" as that is a far more accurate description of it.
That said, I don't give pure capitalism high marks either for the simple reason that it _is_ based on human selfishness and greed. Certainly I don't belive for a second that the so-called "market forces" automatically provide what is good for people. "Market Forces" tend to give to those who already have and take from those who don't have.
It's a _very_ imperfect world.  ?
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:04 pm |
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Well Capitalism works over Communism ... for many reasons, good and bad. ?However being a child of Capitalism all my life, a free market society does give everyone the chance to succeed, in theory. Your opinion is not unusual for many Europeans. It does not upset me, we are use to the criticism ! ? ?Of course Stalin's version of Communism had as much to do with real Communism as bin Laden does with Islam ...
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:51 pm |
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Hi!
Mojarn, no need to be apologetic, thats EXACTLY the reason capitalism works. Any economic or government model that does not take into account the "natural" drives of the human being is doomed to faliure. Communism and most "socialist" movements don't work precisely because people want "things" usually more than they really need. As a race we have not yet evolved past our base and petty deires for "our own good" instead of whats good for our race in general.
If you like "trueisms" here's a couple more:
Communism is capitalism for the few....
Democracy only grants an illusion of freedom, power is still held by but a few powerful interest groups....
My rights as an individual end when there is no longer anything to profit from them....
My neighbors rights begin when they do not impinge on my profits or selfish needs....
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:02 pm |
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Too quote a recent rock song ... "It's a wicked world we live in !" 
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:46 pm |
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:10 pm |
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Hello all,
in my soon to be ordered onissian army (based on the IG, ordered as soon as I move to Brighton) I plan on having a pair of warhounds. However, as with most IG moels I don't really like the models. I was thinking about getting proxy models from other companies and game systems. The obvious choice would be battletech models I suppose, but they look a little bit large to me. My idea is to have them be "mechwarrior style", devises piloted with a single individual while the thing repoduces its movements.
Since I am planning on them bing warhounds I thought that having them in a dinalic position would look good. I already thid that with an eldar wraithlord in 40k (I have it kneeling down grasping a shuriken cannon as a regular trooper would fire a rifle in that position) and was thinking about a similar idea for the warhounds.
I have failed to see titans listed in Mksim's amazing 6mm site, so I thought I should be asking here 
Any ideas of companies/models to use here?
Health and sixes,
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:33 pm |
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Battletech and related items are quite a large pool to pull from. However, others I would look towards:
CAV (Larger, but some would make good "Warlord" titans)
25mm/28mm lines such as void have robots that might be good to use.
I would also look toward some of the Victorian SciFi lines, some good "metal men" in them.
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:43 pm |
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You like battletech style but do not like the Forgeworld Warhounds?
my 2cents,
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:08 am |
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I like the CONCEPT, of titans operated by a single individual, but not necessarily the models themselves In general i was looking for something more humanoid in appearence, with arms et al, carrying a weapon in their hands. I should have explained it better, sorry. Actually, i find the FW models to b quite good, but they do not fit my tastes completely. In general I dislike titans having a hunchback of notredame position, finding it quite ridiculous in some cases and this is why I was asking I will check dafraca's suggestions.
Cheers!
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:16 am |
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| Quote (Xavi @ 02 2004 Sep.,16:08) | | In general i was looking for something more humanoid in appearence, with arms et al, carrying a weapon in their hands. I should have explained it better, sorry. |
In that case, check out more of the Anime toys. They tend to be closer to the "Humanoid with gun in hands" style.
Watch the sizes as they can get big, but Gundam or Robotech for example would fit that kind of "robot with gun" style.
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:15 am |
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I would recommend you first take a look at the CAV because the mechs are generally quite a bit smaller than the Titans. An Adeptus Titanicus Warhound is a bit larger than a BT Battlemaster.
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:49 am |
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| Quote (Mojarn Piett @ 02 2004 Sep.,23:15) | | I would recommend you first take a look at the CAV because the mechs are generally quite a bit smaller than the Titans. An Adeptus Titanicus Warhound is a bit larger than a BT Battlemaster. |
Except that if he is looking for the "humanoid with gun in hand" the CAV line may not fit his needs. That is why I am thinking some of the many Anime style toys. They are larger then the normal mech from battletech and most are the gun in hand style.
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Post subject: Imperial Penal Units Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:50 am |
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Xavi, don't forget to let us know what you do end up with. It is always fun to see/hear what others are using.
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