How is knowing the rules a negative thing?

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Sorry Hena, quoted wrong paragraph, but others have covered me.  

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Steve ~ If that was to me it missed. When it comes to rules I'm awful.

Hena ~ There you stumbled on a major issue, these rules are everything but intuitive.

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Erik - that was aimed at you as I see no reason to make snide remarks at people pointing out rules clarifications.

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It is in 1.12.9.  The exceptions about how broken formations behave in assault are all noted in the appropriate places in 1.12.  Section 1.13.4 is a repeat of that information, placed as a reminder.

1.12.9 Winner Consolidates
After the loser has withdrawn, the winning formation
receives a number of Blast markers equal to the number of
units that were killed by the enemy. Note that it is possible
for a formation to win an assault and then become broken
by the casualties that they suffered! In this case, the
winning formation is broken, but does not have to make a
withdrawal even if other enemy units are within 15cm (see
1.13.3). If the winner of the combat was already broken at
the start of the combat, they do not receive any additional
Blast markers.

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Neal

I've always been a little confused as to why the text in the assault section reads like this:

1.12.8 Loser Withdrawals

...If the loosing formation is not broken then it becomes broken and may withdrawal (see 1.13.3)....

Once any additional casualties have been removed, any surviving units on the losing side must make an immediate withdrawal as explained in the rules for broken formations later on (see 1.13.3).

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-Malakai

"You'll never understand how much watching other people's pain gets me off, hearing their screams and knowing that I have the power of a god." -Velvet Acid Christ

Poor editing.

If you want to be all niggly-technical, you never HAVE to take a withdrawal move.  There are just potentially disastrous results if you do not, i.e. the loss of all units within 15cm of the enemy.

There's a similar issue with the movement/coherency rules.  They state that you MUST remain in formation coherency, but then go on to describe what happens if you don't... so there must obviously be an option not to maintain coherency.

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Neal

Yeah, I had always thought that maybe I was missing something and some "super-subtle-special rule" was eluding me.

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