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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems.  Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:33 pm |
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Hi guys, got a quick question for you. I got my hands on an old slasha gargant, but I'm unsure of how it compares to other gargants (not having any) scalewise. Is it a good model to use as a supa-stompa, or a gargant?
Thanks guys, suggestions for comical names would also be appcreiated (current leader is percy)
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:24 pm |
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I'm pretty sure you can use it as either. The Orky player in my group uses one as a Supa-Stompa, but as long as your opponent knows beforehand, there should be no problems.
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:02 am |
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I use mine as a normal gargant.
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:05 am |
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I have all the Gargant models from SM1 on ... The E40K/E:A Gargant = the Slasha. ?The bigger Gargant is called a Great Gargant. ?Put them side by side (as I have mine displayed) and the size differences are obvious (but since you can't) ... Stompas (I have Supa-Stompa on preorder !) > Mekboy Gargant > Slasha Gargant/Gargant > Great Gargant and finally Mega-Gargant. ? ? ? ? And a good name - I always liked "Fred" ! ?
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:59 pm |
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Thanks guys, I'll have to see them side by side before I make a decision though.
Thanks for suggestion Legion 4, although I was thinking a a comical name. Hence percy, a subtle comment on the model's, erm, "belly", gun.
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:58 pm |
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In that case - call him "Spike" !
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:40 pm |
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:41 pm |
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Tonker possibly?
(Diskworld reference)
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:38 pm |
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If we're going all Pratchetty, how about 'Gaspode' then... or perhaps 'Binky'... maybe they aren't that Orky tho... hehe... 
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:04 pm |
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:17 pm |
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Glad to hear it meets with your approval, Mr V... ?
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:06 am |
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I know a guy at Uni called Percy (nice guy but public school of course) so thats a bit too close for comfort! How about Scrappa! Still Drunk!
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:45 pm |
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hehehe, I'm loving the suggestions
here's another discworldian one, "the long ork", as in the "long man".
I just wish I could think of a name that doesn't sound like rude, so I don't come accross as being too obsessed with nob jokes.
But then you just have to look at a slasha gargant and that's the first thing that comes to mind.
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:41 pm |
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In the 'air power' thread, the issue was raised 'should epic units be made comparable with there 40k counterparts'. I would like to expand this issue further to:
'Should there be comparability between 40k epic, BFG, necromunda, inquisitor'.
Let me begin by putting my name forward as one of those people who are all for comparable abilities.
I think 40k and epic and necromunda and BFG and inquisitor should all be comparable - same universe, different ways of exploring it. I want to recognise something when I shift to a different system. I still have dreams of fighting that epic and BFG campaign one day!
There is a lot of poo-pooing of 40k by people who gave it up in disgust a long time ago (as did I). However, the current 40k is a lot better than its previous incarnations, and changes in recent years, have been more concerned with play balancing issues than huge changes to the fluff. It simply is not true to say there is no consistancy to the 40k fluff and lists - like anything that complicated there is 'variance' but that does not mean we should abandon fundamental constructs.
Rather than aiming for increasing dis-coherency(?) between systems, encouraging coherency between systems (as hard as that may be), is the way to go. As the fluff and background is set mainly by the 40k design team this sets the precedent. The 40k design teams concepts dominate the marketplace and its hard to argue with success.
In addition Jervis has repeatedly stated that epic A is constrained by the 40k design teams specifications... (which is not really that constrained at all to be honest - eg the latests 40k Tyranid codex mentions all the old epic constructs bar the dactylis ('A dead plucked chicken lying on its back throwing eggs' -JJ)).
One of the problems Jervis stated that epic40k (the previous edition of epic) suffered from, was differences in relative efficacy between epic and 40k units (eg tanks were not tough enough compared to infantry).
Right off the bat the official Epic Armageddon lists and rules have been, and should continue to be, constrained, informed, and enhanced by adherence to the wider picture (in particular 40k and Battle Fleet Gothic). There is after all, plenty of room to take epic gaming it in any direction people want - outside the official rule and list set. (I myself intend to do just such a thing as soon as Maksim can supply me with some more AT-AT's... )
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Post subject: Comparability of units between systems. Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:19 pm |
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I say go for it, "Do what works for you" ... and I've got AT-ATs in my inventory too ! 
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