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| Author: | epic [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Large landscape grass options. |
Hi Guys, Have started to put together a large tile scenic gaming/display board. The tiles are about 60cm x 60cm approx they are interlocking and 3 tiles in total, The question is I love the look of the flock grass but hate the way it always comes off, My other option is to use strong glue to glue small grit ballast and paint and this stuff never moves and does not come off. Any other suggestions or options folks have used or heard of that are available ? Regards Epic |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
On the paint approach I can vouch for using a stipling brush (you'll want to buy a cheap bug brush and cut the hairs for a table I suspect  ) with various greens, ochres, tans can make for a very passable plants. Less grass like and looks more like ground cover /moors but it works well and really stands up to abuse.
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| Author: | epic [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
Much appreciated Jimmy 
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| Author: | Markconz [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
Matowar, it's made from flock in a resin so it doesn't shed. Cut it and use for the surface. http://www.thehobbyden.com/index.php?cPath=3_11 |
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| Author: | epic [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
Cheers Markconz will have a look at that stuff Regards Epic |
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| Author: | Samsonov [ Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
Another problem with flock is that it picks up dust and this becomes impossible to remove (so far as I can tell). Hoovering would be quite fatal. The colour of flock just dulls over time because of this. Static grass, on the other hand, should survive a hoovering. |
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| Author: | epic [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
Samsonov wrote: Another problem with flock is that it picks up dust and this becomes impossible to remove (so far as I can tell). Hoovering would be quite fatal. The colour of flock just dulls over time because of this. Static grass, on the other hand, should survive a hoovering. Whats the difference between flock and static grass as I have no idea ? I am still heading in the direction of glueing ballast or sand and painting it, I love the look of these grass things buts its just the idea of it all coming off everywhere with that grass stuff, but I am adding water resin stuff also and also want the board sections to look really nice also for display purposes and don't want to be constantly vacuuming or wiping up green bits ! The ballast would be super glued as I do with my infantry bases and that stuff does not budge even more so with paint on top of it. I may just put static grass in places like along the river banks and buildings to cut down on the risk of coming off everywhere maybe  Regards Epic |
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| Author: | Doomkitten [ Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
Woodland Scenics do some very nice vinyl mats called "Ready Grass" that are great once adhered to more rigid boards. They can even be mouled over terrain (hills) with a heat gun. A lot of the stuff they do (for railway enthusiasts) is very reasonably priced compared to almost exactly the same products packaged up for wargamers. |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
^interesting^ That's a new one for me |
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| Author: | Dave [ Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
Those are more for static setups (e.g. a railroad board) and you'll get a lot of shedding if you're rolling them up or pushing minis around on them. The best looking, most durable DIY boards I've seen were the SAGA boards at Adepticon: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1ycEMyMeptU/V ... 125035.jpg He said he poured straight white glue onto the areas he wanted flocked, mushed it up with a brush a bit, and then covered it with static grass. After patting it down it was left for a day and then stood upright to let the looses stuff fall off. |
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| Author: | epic [ Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
Cheers for the advice guys much appreciated will hopefully get some pictures up soon of what grass option worked and what did not Regards Epic |
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| Author: | Doomkitten [ Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Large landscape grass options. |
Dave wrote: Those are more for static setups (e.g. a railroad board) and you'll get a lot of shedding if you're rolling them up or pushing minis around on them. It's not a good option for rolled up areas, true. S'why I suggested it for rigid areas. For pushing minis about, it depends how often, how heavily and what sort of bases used. Slotta ones or slightly abrasive ply bases being the worst. I actually used flat felt, tightly pulled over and heavy-duty stapled on the back of 3/4" MDF board. Solid as a rock, no tearing so far and doubles as a nice board games table too. I would've thought the PVA (white glue) + static grass would be rather susceptible to shedding after a few games, it's certainly been so in all the times I've used it with PVA - interesting to hear that it's apparently quite resilient. What was the material of the base mat he stuck everything down on to? |
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