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Malakai's Epic Terrain Log

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:33 pm 
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My old terrain log was getting a bit off topic so I decided to form a new one.  :)  I apologize for deleting your comments. Please keep them coming.

My old terrain is looking rather worn so I felt it was about time to update it.

First on my "to-do" list are some Epic scale forests. I bought some trees from an arts and crafts store over ten years ago and was keen to use them. Ready made trees are probably easier, but since I had these I felt it would be a shame to waste them.

I bought several Citadel plastic wood sets and was really impressed by them. Their main feature is removable trees. This allows you to move units through the wood without all of the fuss normally associated with that. I knew that I wanted to duplicate this with my Epic woods.

I usually do a "test piece" for my models and making terrain is no different. To that end I decided to work on one wood from beginning to end before moving on to the others. I plan to do four of them in all.

In the past I've had a lot of bad experiences with warped foam-core and cardboard and knew that I didn't want to use any of this in my new terrain features. So I've decided to use plasticard as the base for my woods.

After cutting out a kidney-shaped piece of plasticard I then cut out two smaller shapes to go inside of it. I placed the smaller shapes inside of the wood and traced around them.

Next I took some epoxy-putty and created a "lip" around the smaller sections. I also didn't want the woods to look entirely flat so a little variation was needed. I made small hills out of the epoxy to make the wood look a bit more natural. (Note: This is the smelliest epoxy-putty I have ever dealt with. If you buy this brand make sure to turn on a fan or open a window. :sus:) This brand of epoxy also dries very quickly so I had to work fast.

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Next up were the trees themselves. I bought them in an after x-mas sale at a Michael's Arts and Crafts store. The main problem with them is that they look anything but natural.

First step was to try and remove the snow on the trees. I knew that I couldn't remove it all, but that wasn't important as long as most of the larger chunks were removed.

So I took a blunt x-acto knife and gently scraped the trees making sure not to mangle hem in the process! When I was satisfied I spray-painted them a dark green.

Next I drybrushed a "goblin green" color on the edges. Finally I painted the trunk of the trees gray. I know it sounds weird, but I'd never considered the fact that bark was gray and not brown until a read a painting trees tutorial in White Dwarf.

Here is a WIP shot of me painting the trees. At the top is the unpainted trees. On the left are some of the trees that have been spray painted and on the right are the finished trees. They are drybrushed and have had their trunks painted.



I decided to go ahead and paint all of my trees to get them out of the way...





YAY all done!  :smile:




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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:36 pm 
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Next step was to cover the base in sand, let dry, and paint.

I wanted to duplicate the colors on my model's bases so I chose to use burnt umber as the base color (to match "Scorched Earth").



I mixed Windsor and Newton's Naples Yellow to the burnt umber to create "Graveyard Earth" then a little more to create a khaki color. It came out looking very close to my original miniature base colors.

I also drybrushed some gray over the more rough patches of earth to simulate rocky patches. After that all that was left to do was to add the static grass.

My first of the finished Epic woods:





And here are the woods with the detachable copses removed:





One down, three to go..



to be continued..

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:39 pm 
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Sorry for no updates lately but I haven't been idle!

First up my new gaming table (yes the little lady finally caved in and let me build one)!

I went pretty cheap with this and used 4x4 posts as legs and a 3/4" MDF board as the table top itself. As it's rather ugly I put a table cloth over it!  :vD





Next are my completed woods. The picture quality is pretty bad, so I apologize. (Yes I was taking these pics and not my wife!)





And here they are with the inserts removed:


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:43 pm 
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Next we have Games Workshop's hills. Some people think they are too big for Epic scale, but I couldn't disagree more. I think they look like a "proper" hill instead of a obstacle on a golf course.

Again I apologize for the brightness of the pictures.




If you're not familiar with the next hill it's nice that it is very versatile. It allows you to attach it in two different ways.




and the same hill:




I haven't quite decided what I'll be working on next. Some scatter terrain craters, roads, or buildings. Hopefully I'll narrow it down a bit next week. That is after I finish hanging the blinds in the gaming room (wife's stipulation for the table).  :sad:




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I have a couple of those GW modular gaming hills on my to do list sometime this year. I agree, they are great for epic scale and with a few more subtle rolling hills and trees like you've done work gives some nice terrain.

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Yeah, I have the GW hills too. Very versatile and sturdy. I've still to flock mine but the undercoat and drybrush are done. It looks a bit blue on camera but not in real life. I need to learn to do the same effect with browns, like yours. Yours looks much better.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:16 am 
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Love the work mate, excellent terrain.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:19 am 
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I've got those G/W hills too !  Your's look great !!!  :agree:

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Very nice. Good to have a table too!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:55 am 
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Quote: (Markconz @ 18 Jan. 2009, 00:45 )

Very nice. Good to have a table too!

My old table was a thing of beauty. My grandfather and I built it together. He was great at woodworking and knew a lot about stains and all the things that I'm pants at.

Unfortunately he's not with us anymore and my old table succumb to the elements in a "so-called" environmentally controlled storage facility.

Now after 8 years I finally have a table, not as nice as the old one, but I'm thankful to have a permanent spot to wage war once again!  :cool:

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Well I finally decided on my next project. It really was no contest at all. I broke the projects down into two categories. 1. What would I like to do. And 2. what do I have to do. Can't have a game of Epic without buildings so they won out easily.  :)

Being a bank holiday today I've had time to get a lot of the prep work done like cleaning the mold lines, washing them in warm soap etc. I have a good number of the E40K ruins and I decided that cleaning the mold lines on those was worth it too.

The models are out of print and are really detailed so I thought they deserved some special attention. I think it'll pay off when it comes time to paint them up.

Nothing really new to report by way of pics though. Just my humble, cluttered workstation...



Hopefully this week we will see more progress!

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Here is a WIP shot. Nothing exciting, just showing you guys that yes, I do in fact find time to work on something.



Admittedly I spend more time at my desk smoking, drinking tea, and listening to music than I do actually working!  :p




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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:14 am 
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Quote: (Malakai @ 21 Jan. 2009, 05:27 )

Admittedly I spend more time at my desk smoking, drinking tea, and listening to music than I do actually working!  :p

That sounds familiar...
What have you used for the ruin with an arch in it? is it just a GW piece with some parts cut out?
I'd like to find some decent premade ruins for my table.

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Quote: (Malakai @ 21 Jan. 2009, 05:27 )

Admittedly I spend more time at my desk smoking, drinking tea, and listening to music than I do actually working!  :p

That sounds familiar...
What have you used for the ruin with an arch in it? is it just a GW piece with some parts cut out?
I'd like to find some decent premade ruins for my table.

I'm customizing this piece. It's just a standard E40K ruin set.

I took the photo because, quite frankly, I'm a little burned out on it and I don't know when I'll make a new update.

I had planned on buzzing through this project, but little setbacks keep derailing me. Nothing major, just things that "don't seem to want to glue together", or "where the hell did that x-acto knife go", and of course "making my cuts too short" blah blah blah.

I'm sure that if I took a step back and left the project alone for awhile I'd feel differently about it later.

So for that reason I'm looking forward to tomorrow as it should be a nice break from the desk, but still allow me to do something "hobby related." My wife and I are hitting a couple of craft shops to pick up some paint specifically for my buildings.  :smile:




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After taking a couple of days off from the hobby I felt like having a go at some more terrain.

I decided to start off with some basic ruins before going forward with anything more complex.


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