Hi guys

Ive been trying many different things for my terrain lately, but nothing seems to be working very well. So now Im going to try using woodland scenics flock, which is very good quality and excellent in itself.

However I tend to be disappointed with it when used on large mini bases or terrain piece bases.

So how do you guys use it? Do you glue on two or even several layers of the stuff to make the finish better? Do you spray or sprinkle PVA glue/water mix on top of it? Do you use different shades of grass to produce shading or other effects?

Dont have a camera at my place at the moment, but might show some pics of my progress or lack thereof in a while...

All help appreciated!

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Hi!

yeah, getting a decent looking surface can be tricky.  

I have never used only flock for a surface, usually I sand it, paint it and then i add some flock.
If you want to use just flock, then I'd suggest using different colours for some variety. You'd have to experiment to get a look that suits you.

To glue the stuff I use this white glue stuff (PVA glue?). Thinned down with water, that is. Does the trick nicely. When I'm happy with the look i spray it with varnish.

Friend of mine uses a different approach. He just dumps  flock on his terrain, sprays it with thinned down glue, and shakes of excess. Seems to work fine, too.

cheers,

What kind of flock is it? The really super fine stuff? I used that on some terrain like this:

Mix some paint with elmer's glue and applying that
Pile the flock on
Cover with a plastic bag and push the flock in the base/terrain/whatever
Wait a night
Dust it off with a big paint brush
Dullcoat it two to three times

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Here's what I did with my woodland scenics flock (NOTE: this might not achieve the effect you want). I have to admit, the process I used is long and not guaranteed to work. So, probably ignore this whole post.

First, I outlined the area that I wanted to flock with a bead of Elmer's glue (white PVA glue). Then a took some watered-down Elmer's glue (not watered-down so much that it was watery, just enought that it didn't dry out while I was spreading it) and 'painted' the area I wanted flock. Then, after there was glue everywhere I wanted flock, I sifted flock over the gluey areas.

I let that sit overnight.

The next day, I took the flocked surfaces outside and shook off all the excess flock. After this, the surfaces looked rather ratty, so...

Using even more watered-down glue (now watered-down to the the consistency of milk) I carefully soaked the semi-flocked areas (the flocked areas act as a sponge, so it's not that hard). Once those areas are sopping wet with glue, I spread even more flock on top. Waiting for 5 minutes will reveal wet spots soaking through in some areas, so sprinkle on more flock where they appear. Then walk away for an hour or so.

Now, it takes a whole lot longer for this mess to dry than an hour, but... After an hour or 2 things should have dried off enough for you to be able to break out the rolling pin. Use the rolling to roll the surface smooth, but DO NOT roll over the same area twice (clumps of gluey flock will attach to the roller and ruin all that work).

Repeat steps as necessary.

In the end, I don't think I'll be using flock again. It's too much hassle. Instead I am planning on experimenting with spray-on wall texture (the finest grit size), ink, dry brushing, and a matte sealant. I just wish they made this stuff in grassy greens and tans. I've used this stuff to make ashe wastes and to make tree trunks look like they've been burned in a fire, and it works amazingly well.

I use the WS flocks as well, but my approch seems different, but the same, as everyone else.  I prime my surface (spray for plastic, brush on for foam) then I paint using the WS undercoat pigments (brown and greens.)  Then I use their Scenic Cement spray bottle (basically watered down PVA) and run a couple different types of their turf (green blend, earth blend) that come in the shake bottles.  A couple passes with the glue and turf and I'm good, with one more pass from the spray bottle to seal everything.  For patches of grass, over rocks or sandy bits, I just dip my brush in the spray bottle and liberally apply the Scenic Cement where I want it, then use the shake bottle turf, then spray with glue and done.

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I have a different way as well thats worked out very well for my new board and terrain. After sanding and painting the terrain/table varnish heavily. While the varnish is still wet sprinkle the flock on, concentrating on any areas that you want. Wait for the varnish to dry and then give it a couple more heavy coats of varnish (I reccomend matt picture varnish spray dirt cheap and great!) It gives a very realistic finish and I'll see if I can get some pics for you.

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