MDF?
Edit: Right, I used Wikipedia... and I assume youre not referring to the Maryland Death Fest heavy metal music festival, so I guess its a type of fibre board
Problem with those would be that Id have to use a saw to cut them wouldnt I?
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| Author: | Brother-Captain Parzval [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
Hi guys Im gonna order some plasticard for use as basing for various terrain pieces Im planning. So how thick should the basing for terrainpieces be? Is 2mm good? Is 2mm difficult to cut with a regular knife (carpetknife type thing is all I have)? Will 1 mm do? Any risk it might warp? Happy for any advice from all the expert terrain makers out there! |
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| Author: | zombocom [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
1mm isn't sturdy enough - it bends and the basing all comes off eventually. |
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| Author: | fattdex [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
2mm would be better, but I try to use MDF for maximum strength, durability and added weight (stop it moving) |
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| Author: | Mark_Logue [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
I second the suggestion to use MDF. For the strenght and durability required for terrain basing plasticard is too expensive and option. MDF does a great job. |
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| Author: | Brother-Captain Parzval [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
MDF? Edit: Right, I used Wikipedia... and I assume youre not referring to the Maryland Death Fest heavy metal music festival, so I guess its a type of fibre board Problem with those would be that Id have to use a saw to cut them wouldnt I? |
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| Author: | Major_Gilbear [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
2mm thick plascard if fine, and you don't even need to cut it; simply score it and then bend gently. The card will snap cleanly along the score line. As for weight, I guess it depends on what terrain you glue onto the card? If any pieces are hollow, you could always fill them with sand before sealing and gluing them down to the base for added weight. Buying a strip of roofing lead and making rubble from it to add to your terrain also adds weight easily. If you want to stop terrain sliding easily over your table (and I assume your table has some texture to it), why not stick a peice of self-adhesive velour to the underside of the terrain base? It will 'grip' the table much better that way. Velour is better than felt for this as it is thinner and doesn't go bobbly with use. |
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| Author: | lord_bruno [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
Medium Density Fiberboard, wood-like  , you can also get some metal sheets(but you can´t cut this with a knife), because plasticard is so expensive...
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| Author: | Malakai [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
See my terrain thread. I use both 1mm and 2mm plasticard as bases. 1mm is fine if it's not a very large piece. If it is then you need to go with 2mm. If I were you I'd order some of both. 1mm is a lot easier to cut and work with, while 2mm makes for a nice solid showcase base (but is somewhat more expensive obviously). And I don't know what people are talking about as far as "sliding off". I've never had any problems. |
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| Author: | Major_Gilbear [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
@ Malakai: Depending on your table surface, some lightweight terrain is easy to nudge or knock when moving or placing a model near the edges of it. If the terrain piece warps the base even slightly, this effect can be exaggerated. In a game where careful model placement is important, it can be very frustrating to have terrain move like this. I don't imagine most folks' terrain slides around like a puck on an air-hockey table though! 
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| Author: | Malakai [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
One of the bonuses of plasticard, that I have found, is that it doesn't warp. That's why I use it. As far as knocking terrain around on your table, well Epic terrain is usually small by definition and that sort of comes with the territory. I might bump my terrain a bit but sliding around? Na. Never had that problem, and I have a pretty slick gaming mat I play on. Besides, I don't think I'd ask someone to play a second game with me if they were too clumsy not to treat my terrain and models with care. It's true that 1mm plasticard is thin and lightweight but don't forget it is a base and you'll be adding some weight to it. |
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| Author: | Major_Gilbear [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
Quote: (Malakai @ 03 Mar. 2009, 10:43 ) One of the bonuses of plasticard, that I have found, is that it doesn't warp. That's why I use it. [...] It's true that 1mm plasticard is thin and lightweight but don't forget it is a base and you'll be adding some weight to it. Both true, and why I too use the stuff for basing... I also use the 60mm Titan bases for trees - they work very well and save me cutting circles out of plascard. The tree bases can sit on a second flat base used to denote wooded areas, and that allows the tree bases to be (re)moved if needed to place models. I suppose a similar system could be used to place rubble and internal walls within a ruined building , but you'd still be able to (re)move them to place models. Hmm, sorry Brother-Captain Parzval, didn't mean to stray off-topic. 
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| Author: | mspaetauf [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
Hideliho! I'd suggest glueing a 1mm and 2mm plasticard together for use as a base. With the 2mm the lower one, there shouldn't be any warping at all. I don't like MDF myself, because of the warping effect.... cheers, |
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| Author: | javelin98 [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
I use 2mm plasticard, and sand the edges down to a gentle bevel for non-building pieces. For building pieces, cutting out the plasticard to be the same size all around the edges of the building can give you that raised sidewalk look. |
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| Author: | Brother-Captain Parzval [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Terrain piece basing: plasticard thickness? |
Thanks for your input everyone! Looks like its going to be 1 mm. Mainly because I get twice as much at the same price! I will be making fairly small pieces, to start with at least. If I happen to be unsatisfied with it, I guess Ill have to order some 2 mm. Most important for me is: 1. material doesnt warp 2. easy to cut 3. cheap (plasticard seems expensive...) The weight doesnt seem that big a problem imo. |
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