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Psi-Titans and Custodian Titans

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:33 am 
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I need every information I can get about Psi-Titans and Custodian Titans.
Actually I don't even know if those are the same type of Titan or different ones.

The only information I currently have is that Psi-Titans are organised in the Divisio Telepathica and that Custodian Titans can have Devotional Bells and/or Custodian Heads (contain psykers with additional technology).

Somewhere I heard that Psi-Titans are Warlords with a special psychic cannon (if fueled by psykers or just by psychic ammunition I don't know) on their carapace.

What can you provide (rules and background information, miniatures, pictures)?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:40 am 
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http://www.mustangsalling.dk/imperium/psititan.html

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:48 am 
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The mini in the link above is a conversion.

The actual citadel model that was released is this one (I think?):
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniature ... ...tan.jpg




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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:24 am 
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Quote: (Brother-Captain Parzval @ 14 Mar. 2009, 00:48 )

The mini in the link above is a conversion.

The actual citadel model that was released is this one (I think?):
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniature ... ...tan.jpg

Is the head a special Psi-Titan head or is it the same as the Custodian Head?

It seems to me that the Custodian and Psi-Titan are the same, but that in later Editions the Devotional Bell became just an upgrade to ordinary Warlords (the rules I have of Custodian Titans with Devotional Bells are from the original Adeptus Titanicus) while "true" Psi-Titans/Custodian Titans must have the Censorium. Of course I need further information to verify that (please name your sources and if possible provide them to me).

Btw I need it for the Titan game I'm still working on.




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The real Psi Titan head was all new, with twin cheek mounted cannon (similar in design to the Warmonger head).  The Custodian head was just one of the metal head variants made for the old beetlebacks.  You'd find photos of them on the Stuff of Legends site.  Similarly the devotional bell was just a weapons selection for beetlebacks.  A custodian head and devotional bell did not a Psi Titan make  :vD

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:25 pm 
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YEah. Take my fluff with a grain of salt. I based the text on info from Adeptus Titanicus and some old fluff bible IIRC and tinkered it a bit to fit with my conversion. Mojarn has an assembled Psi titan where you can see he correct armament and head.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:39 pm 
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Thanks for the info guys.

But I still need more information and sources. Do you know where the actual rules and background for the Psi-Titan were printed and do you know where to get it or even have it at hand?

EDIT:
@ zap123: Unfortunately SoL is working on the Citadel part of the site so currently there are no Epic miniatures included.




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I'm pretty sure there have never been official rules for the Psi-Titan. The only official stuff I've read about them is in the Adpetus Titanicus rulebook.

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I'm not certain on this but weren't the rules meant to be part of a Codex Titanicus II supplement that was planned but never released back in the AT/SM1 days?


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If nothing was ever published, then why appear names like Censorium or Psy-Cannon (ok this one existed before) for Psi-Titan equipment?

And the miniature that according to what I've heard was available for a very short time, wasn't it released with a (short) description?

My guess (or hope) is that there was something in White Dwarf.

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Sorry, there weren't any official rules.

There is a short mention about Divisio Telepathica (Along with Divisio Mandati and Divisio Investigatus) in the Adeptus Titanicus rulebook. And GlynG is right; in 1st edition Space Marine rulebook there is a mention about Codex Titanicus II that will be released "soon" (it never was  :sigh:  :_( ) and it was supposed to contain rules for PSI titans, Zeppelins and Juggernauts as well as some other stuff.

The names for the parts (warp cannon etc.) came from GWUS online store where the PSI titan parts were available as bitz for a short while along with the never released dropship, Exodites and Eldar X-vehicles.

The cannon has four parts (base plate, right dome, left dome and the cannon itself) and the head is a special PSI titan head.

EDIT: The custodian titan rules (i.e. rules for the head and the devotional bell) appeared in WD133. Custodian titan is a Warlord with custodian head annd a devotional bell. However, there is only one custodian titan per titan legion.




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Thanks for the detailed information.
As for the names:

Is the weapon called Psy-Cannon or Warp Cannon?
Are the weapon domes called Censorium Dome like on Warmaster Nice' page or is it his own invention and the name is just "Dome"?

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Censorium Dome is the name of the dome on an Imperator Titan. IN SM2/TL the Imperator had a psychic save because of the dome (which was lost if the dome was destroyed). I figured that tied in nicely with the theme of the Psi Titan so I adopted the term for Psi titans as well. There is however no official use of the word Censorium Dome in regards to Psi Titans that I know of. I just thought it made sense to make the connection.

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