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Post subject: Your space marine chapters  Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:45 pm |
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Ares Guard space marines:
Mechanised theme, with all troops on Rhinos/Razorbacks.
Land Raiders, Whirlwinds.Vindicators in support.
Old robot models used as Dreads
Chapter Master dreadnought Nestor
I am thinking of using the old Gorgon transports as Rhinos - as marines are armoured, open-topped-ness does not worry me; but the mine launchers mounted on the sides do - these have to go or be explained away!
In support:
Smaller titans - I have a pair of warhounds and three reavers (anyway, my Imperator has gone over to Chaos, and has too many heads to come back  )
Skitarii - Imperial Guard troops with an Adeptus Mechanicus flavour. Just troops and Chimeras - Ad. Mech rely on Titans for firepower, and, in my case, the Ares Guard.
The Centurio Ordinatus - I have just one Ordinatus, luckily, Mars.
What I'd like to use with the Ares Guard + Titans+ Skitarii (not likely that rules will appear for these though):
Corvus Assault pod, a titan mounted arm 'weapon' for transporting space marines
the good old Termites, Moles, and Hellbores
an old, old favourite - the Capitol Imperialis, a model of which I jealously harbour
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:59 pm |
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| Quote (vanvlak @ 01 2003 Nov.,19:45) | Corvus Assault pod, a titan mounted arm 'weapon' for transporting space marines
the good old Termites, Moles, and Hellbores
an old, old favourite - the Capitol Imperialis, a model of which I jealously harbour ? ? |
I can agree with you here! I love the tunnelers! I have 2 Hellbores and 6 Moles for a tunneler regiment I am putting together. The CI, another classic model, one of which I own.
I like the idea of combining forces like this. The fact that their organisation is intertwined and they are part of the same force. With me, Titans, IG and SM's are fighting together, but are all part of independant forces.
With the Ordinatus, I am very jealous, as I don't have any. However, they never seemed big enough for my liking...
Gorgons for Rhino's! I think using standard Rhino's would be better, as you can get hold of these more easily. And for a fully mechanised force like this, its what you need!
Any thoughts of including Knights as well?
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 2:41 am |
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Smalish side question...
Knights happen to be an intermediaste between a dreadnought and a titan, right? SO they are microtitans or macrodreads, right?
Regs,
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 3:50 am |
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Welcome Aboard vanvlak ! You are now our man in the Med ! Don't worry about the Gorgon stats, you could always use the E-A Gorgon data, that Jervis provides in the earlier downloads. That's my recommendation. And Xavi, I'd say, if anything, Knights are small Titans ...
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 9:54 am |
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I like it Vanvlak!
Your fluff is very topical and fits in well with the new stuff. Its different havign a Chaoter Master as a dreadie! Nice twist. So does he harbour a particular hatred for the Demiurg and Necrons now given their recent run-ins with them?
What was the origin of the Chapter's geneseeed? Are they a derivative of the Ultras? Is this why Calgar was nice to them and didn't absorb them or maybe he convinced the Inquisitor not to decalre them Excommunicado?
Just a few thoughts...
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:50 am |
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| Quote (Tas @ 02 2003 Nov.,08:54) | I like it Vanvlak!
Your fluff is very topical and fits in well with the new stuff. ?Its different havign a Chaoter Master as a dreadie! ?Nice twist. ?So does he harbour a particular hatred for the Demiurg and Necrons now given their recent run-ins with them?
What was the origin of the Chapter's geneseeed? ?Are they a derivative of the Ultras? Is this why Calgar was nice to them and didn't absorb them or maybe he convinced the Inquisitor not to decalre them Excommunicado?
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Thanks Tas!
In reply to various posts -
Knights: I forgot those! I have a love affair with Errants and Castellans; but I have not yet 'fluffed them in' - perhaps the wandering Ares Guard fleet will encounter them on the way and 'enrol' them.
Gorgons: I'm thinking of Gorgons to give the chapter a diferent look; I have four of these, including two different models, so they would have to be backed by Rhinos.
Tas' questions:
You'll have to look at the detailed version - and it doesn't exist yet! But here are some thoughts.
Nestor is instructed by Calgar and the Inquisition to Operate with the Ad. Mech. - and they don't (originally) like it. What is his and his chapter's agenda?
Descent from Ultramarines:
I'm undecided - this would not allow me to wander far from the Ultramarine organization. Perhaps they on some occasion operated with the Ultramarines, and Calgar has seen their worth and come up in their favour.
The diplomatic Nestor is now a dreadnought: his character will not dampen his hatred for the Demiurg, who destroyed - intentionally or inadvertently - his homeworld. As for the Necrons - he shouldn't be on kissing terms with these, seeing what happened to him... but the Shroud infiltration has always be covered in a cloak of secrecy, and what exactly happened to him?
To sum him up - is he subservient to Calgar? A pawn of the Inquisition? Grateful to the Adeptus Mechanicus for saving him, and ultimately for aiding his chapter? Has his installation in a Dreadnought by the Adeptus Mechanicus been a standard job - or is he now under their influence? Is their change of heart merely a show of gratitude, or are there deeper undercurrents? What is the Adeptus Mechanicus link to the Necrons? What happened on Mars? Does this affect the chapter? What about his second in command, who takes care of the day to day administration and command of the chapter, Captain Aias? Where are their ships being sent? What is Inquisitor Hermes role? What about Magos Brunelli? (ok, he's a new addition - a high-ranking Ad. Mech. techpriest liaisoning with the Ares Guard)
So many questions - right now, I think it gives the Ares Guard more character not to answer them. 
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:33 pm |
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a) Knights: what about the chapter having "megadreadnoughts" as a consequence of having a strong contact with the mechanicus?
b) Gorgons: use them as command vehicles then. I don't play epic but 4 of them look smallish for an epic force, right?
c) Ultramarines descendant: poo. You *can* have a different organization from that of the ultras without problem. The organisation is not fixed by your geneseed. Only your phisical characterstics (and some of the psychical ones) are fixed by it. organization is simple convention. if you don't addered to the codex astartes there we go, without an ultra organization. In fact loads of non ultramarine chapters addere to the codex astartes while loads of ultramarine descendants do not.
d) Nestor the dread: I think he will become a good friend with Janus the dread, my chapter master. LMAO ? In my case it is a little bit more tricky how I plan to entomb him (basically he is executed, but they use a clause in the execution texty in order to save his ass, LOL. You'll see...). I like dreads with a previous history as people not entombed. My dreads are famous in the chapter for what they did BEFORE becoming a dread, not after it, that is what usually happens with most dreads around. on the other hand my chapter is quite new, you know, with only 50 years of existance or so.
e) Questions questions. So many questions and very few time to answer them! lol  Keep the good work up
Health and a lot of sixes,
Xavi
EDIT: I am astonished that even "cr.ap" is considered a swear word by the system arund here.... oh well.
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:03 pm |
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In a rush, but 2 quick ones:
a) I agree with Xavi, Ultra descendants dont have to be Codex fascists. In "Warriors of Ultramar", the Mortifactors Chapter (of Ultra geneseed) have diverged strongly from the Codex)
b) Dreadies leading Chapters is rare, as I just read in the IA article about them in the blurb on Bjorn fell-hand and when he took command of the SWolves in the Battle of the Fang.
Looking forward to more detail, and I agree: NOT answering all the questions leaves mystery and intrigue....
Cheers!
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:47 pm |
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Hmmm - I'd forgotten about the Mortifactors.... ok, daddy Guilleman it is, then!
Gorgons for command - could work - just the 4 Gorgons are, as you pointed out, Xavi, not enough, and I am backing them up with Rhinos/Razors.
Megadreads? ummmm. Not convinced - yet. It could work, but I have to put it through the fluff generator and see if it works.
Xavi - why had Janus been executed? Curious! 
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 10:15 pm |
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:50 pm |
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+++THIS NOW IN+++
INQUISITOR RADIX INVESTIGATION OF COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN BROTHER HERMES AND ULTRAMAR:
ARES GUARD ASTARTES CHAPTER ORIGINS BELIEVED RELATED TO ASTARTES CHAPTER LEGIO (X?) FAUSTA CF SONS OF JANUS.
JANUS = CAPTAIN JANUS, ADEPTUS ASTARTES ULTRAMARINES, CURRENTLY ENTOMBED IN DREADNOUGHT FORNAX ASSIGNED TO 1ST COMPANY.
RADIX MALORUM
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:26 am |
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Vanvlak,
Welcome and good to have you here. I know it might be a bit late but go to TS' site, epic40k.com, and read my fluff on the Knights of Terra. It might give you some ideas on including knights into your force.
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:32 am |
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Thanks Centurion,
and thanks to all for the welcome here and help offered.
Epicomms is starting to feel like home.
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:48 am |
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It took me one month to produce one single Rhino.... I should stick to orks!
Anyway, here is the 'colour scheme explorator' Rhino for the Ares Guard:
epic SM briefcase
- surprise, it's on Mars, it isn't red; then again, the SM are not noted for their use of camouflage..
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Post subject: Your space marine chapters Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 8:23 am |
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| Quote (vanvlak @ 02 2003 Dec.,06:48) | | - surprise, it's on Mars, it isn't red; then again, the SM are not noted for their use of camouflage.. |
Hmm, now how did a marine put it..."Camouflage is the colour of fear... I have no need to hide from my foes... I have no fear of death. My colors I wear openly, they proclaim louder than any words, 'I am proud to live - I am proud to die'. " -Commander Carab Culln, Red Scorpions.
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