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How exactly does CF work? |
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asaura
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Post subject: How exactly does CF work?  Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:24 am |
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Tactica's excellent question about CF motivated me to reread the 4.3.3 CF rules with a fine rules-lawyers comb in hand. Based on my reading, the declaration of actions and execution order is so vague that it allows for multiple possible readings.
From the rules:
If the test is passed then all formations concerned are allowed to take either an advance, double or sustained fire
action. There is no obligation for all formations to take the same action, and these actions may be resolved in any
order, but they must all fire at the same target formation. The formations don?t have to stay within a given distance of
each other and will complete their actions one after the other. Each formations action is declared and resolved
(including testing to see if the target formation is broken) before moving on to the next Tau formation.
Does the Tau player need to declare the actions and/or the order prior to playing out any actions? Possible readings:
i) Everything declared first. Tau player says "CF. Crisis I advances. Pathfinders double. Hammerheads sustain. In this order."
ii) Actions declared first, order left open. Tau player says "CF. Crisis I advances. Pathfinders double. Hammerheads sustain. Pathfinders go first." After the PFs have done their double actions, the Tau player chooses "Crisis go second".
iii) Everything left open. Tau player says "CF. Crisis, Pathfinders and Hammerheads participate. Pathfinders start. They Double." After resolving the double action, the player continues: "Crisis Double".
This issue was discussed on the old Epic forum: link
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The mechanism of selecting the common target was brought up on the other thread.
The rules say that all CF formations must shoot at the same target formation. There's no special mechanism of selecting this target. According to the rules-as-written, the first acting CF formation selects a target when it shoots (e.g. after first moving), as per 1.9.1.
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CyberShadow
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Post subject: How exactly does CF work? Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:46 pm |
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The way that I always intended it working was to leave the actions and orders open, as in point three of your post. If I remember correctly, this was supported due to the fact that you dont know if your first formation will destroy the original target until after they have fired.
In this process, I would say that the first formation declares the target by firing at it, and the second and third formation must target the same formation if the fire.
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nealhunt
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Post subject: How exactly does CF work? Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:30 pm |
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Asaura: The last sentence that you quoted answers your question pretty clearly, imho.
Each formations action is declared and resolved
(including testing to see if the target formation is broken) before moving on to the next Tau formation. |
That reads as your example iii, unless I missed something. I'd like to hear how you think it would be interpretted as i or ii.
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Tactica
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Post subject: How exactly does CF work? Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:45 pm |
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Asaura,
Removing the parenthesis in the final sentence may help clarify.
Each formations action is declared and resolved ... before moving on to the next Tau formation. |
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asaura
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Post subject: How exactly does CF work? Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:07 pm |
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| Quote (nealhunt @ 13 Jan. 2006 (14:30)) | | Asaura: ?The last sentence that you quoted answers your question pretty clearly, imho. |
I must've been drunk, which is funny, since I can't recall drinking anything... 
Either that, or I just managed to jumble some old discussions with JG instead of really reading what I quoted.
The thing doesn't seem all that vague, now. The last sentence does specify alternative iii.
I'll shut up now, hopefully I'll get better, or something...
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