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Author:  Mephiston [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Having played a couple of games between Tau and Marines my question is what help is the Tau jet pack 10cm move on an Air Assault?

If I'm playing this correctly the marine player declares Air Assault and places his T'hawk on his board edge where it will enter. The tau player can then move 10cms in any direction. T'hawk then moves and the troops inside disembark and enter CC.

Is the ability supposed to make most assaults FF only or allow the Tau to bring nearby units into support? Just wondering as my Tau owning opponent was dissapointed when my T'hawk assault wiped out his Crisis + drone unit in one assault!
Author:  nealhunt [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Is the ability supposed to make most assaults FF only or allow the Tau to bring nearby units into support?


Both, plus more.

As far as versus air assault, not only can the target formation retreat to within support range of another formation but if they are close enough they can retreat within the ZoC of another formation, potentially stopping CC (depending on several factors).

Versus ground assaults, an intended FF-only attack can be completely prevented if the Tau move out of move+FF range of the assaulting formation.
Author:  Mephiston [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Quote (nealhunt @ 16 Dec. 2005 (14:44))

As far as versus air assault, not only can the target formation retreat to within support range of another formation but if they are close enough they can retreat within the ZoC of another formation, potentially stopping CC (depending on several factors).

Wouldn't I be able to claim that as intermingled then and potentially get a 2 for 1 bonus!

Glad we played it right that the tau move before the T'hawk lands.
Author:  nealhunt [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Quote (Mephiston @ 16 Dec. 2005 (20:46))
Quote (nealhunt @ 16 Dec. 2005 (14:44))

As far as versus air assault, not only can the target formation retreat to within support range of another formation but if they are close enough they can retreat within the ZoC of another formation, potentially stopping CC (depending on several factors).

Wouldn't I be able to claim that as intermingled then and potentially get a 2 for 1 bonus!

Glad we played it right that the tau move before the T'hawk lands.

Nope.  Intermingled targets is declared when the attacker announces his action.  At that point, the Tau formations are not intermingled.  It's only after the attacker has declared and the attacker has activated that the Tau react at all.

The attacker doesn't get to go back and change the target retroactively.
Author:  Tactica [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:14 am ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Quote (Mephiston @ 16 Dec. 2005 (06:55))

Having played a couple of games between Tau and Marines my question is what help is the Tau jet pack 10cm move on an Air Assault?


No significant effect, NH has said it all.
Author:  dptdexys [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
What about if a combined assault is declared as an action then after tau jet pack moves the formations that were to be assaulted are no longer intermingled .

Is it still classed as a combined assault.
Author:  clausewitz [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Interesting question..

I assume you mean an assault on intermingled formations rather than a combined assault of several formations attacking one enemy formation?

Example: Some SMs (either one formation or several in a combined assault) declare an assault against a Tau HammerHead Contingent and a Crisis Cadre.  The Crisis Cadre uses the Jet Packs to jump back out of engagement range.  If the SMs win the assault against the Hammerheads, would the Crisis Cadre (that was originally part of the intermingled target of the assault) be broken?
Author:  asaura [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Quote (dptdexys @ 17 Dec. 2005 (20:48))
What about if a combined assault is declared as an action then after tau jet pack moves the formations that were to be assaulted are no longer intermingled .

Is it still classed as a combined assault.

Sure. Why wouldn't it be?
Author:  Steele [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Quote (dptdexys @ 17 Dec. 2005 (21:48))
What about if a combined assault is declared as an action then after tau jet pack moves the formations that were to be assaulted are no longer intermingled .

Is it still classed as a combined assault.

For the question : "Is it still a combined assault? - Yes it is.

For the question : "...formations that were to be assaulted are no longer intermingled " : I would say they aren?t, but since it is a special rule declaring intermingled and the Jetpacks also - You would need another rule set which gives an exception to the above , they might still count as Intermingled. But maybe some AnswerMod at the SG site can clarify .....

Cheers!
Steele
Author:  dptdexys [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Quote (clausewitz @ 17 Dec. 2005 (23:22))
Interesting question..

I assume you mean an assault on intermingled formations rather than a combined assault of several formations attacking one enemy formation?

Example: Some SMs (either one formation or several in a combined assault) declare an assault against a Tau HammerHead Contingent and a Crisis Cadre. ?The Crisis Cadre uses the Jet Packs to jump back out of engagement range. ?If the SMs win the assault against the Hammerheads, would the Crisis Cadre (that was originally part of the intermingled target of the assault) be broken?

Sorry ,yes I meant an assault against Intermingled enemy formations.
Author:  Steele [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Air Assault and Tau Jet Packs Question.
Hi, I posted the question this day at SG and PG gave answer, although he is the sole responder , it is hint. Here?s the Link:
http://www.specialist-games.com/forum/t ... IC_ID=3513


Hope that helps.

Steele
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