Cachivache wrote:
I've played many times against and i think that WE battlesuits (riptide, rvarna, stormsurge, etc.) should be in an specific support formation options with 1/1 relation with core (1 core formation, 1 WE battlesuit formation) to avoid WE spam that makes this list so boring to play against.
No offense, but this makes very little sense to me. Heavy battlesuits were already limited in the transition from the previous iteration of Vior'la list to this one, as they were core before.
Other than that, you probably didn't notice that core to support ratio is 1:2 for Vior'la list (its 1:3 in Third sphere list), and making it 1:1 would definitely cripple the list.
Cachivache wrote:
This list has all the advantages of the NetEA Tau list without any handicap, plus long range fire and increased durability.
If anything, Vior'la lost range comparing to the Third sphere expansion Tau list, as for example every Hammerheads version has a more range than its equivalent Heavy Battlesuit version, or fire warriors losing their 30 cm range shot.
Vior'la list capitalizes on the 15-45cm range while Third Sphere feels more comfortable at 30-75cm range.
Only Supremacy and Stormsurge are an exception to this.
About the "without any handicap" part, Vior'la lost Tetras and piranhas, as they are a mere upgrade to a 200 points formation instead of a super cheap formation itself.
Also, Vior'la lost Barracudas in exchange for Razorsharks, and while they are good enough their cost is 200 points instead of 150, losing some list flexibility.
Not to mention Tigersharks AX-1-0.
Cachivache wrote:
Sincerely, this list seems OP to me. In fact, at this time this list is banned from competitive games in our local player cluster.
This is weird, I didn't have any good results in my local meta and the other players agree that it's underperforming right now.
Could you please bring us more information on what list did you play against?
On the topic of this thread, I wanted to ask some questions about the list:
About broadsides, their Twin Railguns had 60cm range in Third Sphere and 90cm range here, is this a typo?
About the Manta:
-The list doesn't mention it should activate at 1+, but I assume this holds true for this list aswell.
-I don't know if the Manta transport information is clear enough, can I use either infantry or vehicle slots to bring Heavy battlesuits? I think the answer is yes, as that means 6 Heavy battlesuits could be transported in a Manta, which makes sense.
-Did you guys have any good experiences using the Manta deployed with Planetfall full of Heavy battlesuits? It makes sense for a very expensive (and also very fun) alpha strike.
What do you guys think about this list? I'm planing on using it soon, but I can't decide if I'm overrating the Manta alpha strike.
3000 POINTS
NetEA Tau Vior'la (2.2)
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Core formations:
FIRE WARRIOR BREACHER CADRE [400]
6 Fire Warrior Breacher units, 3 Devilfish, Skyray, Shas'o Commander
FIRE WARRIOR BREACHER CADRE [300]
6 Fire Warrior Breacher units, 3 Devilfish, Skyray
FIRE WARRIOR BREACHER CADRE [250] <-- This one starts inside the Orca
6 Fire Warrior Breacher units, 2 Pathfinder units
Support formations:
BROADSIDE GROUP [300] <-- This one starts inside the Manta
6 XV88 Broadside battlesuits
HEAVY BATTLESUIT CADRE [350] <-- This one starts inside the Manta
Shas'el Commander, 3 XV109 Y'Vahra
KX139 TA'UNAR SUPREMACY [225]
1 KX139 Ta'unar Supremacy Battlesuit unit, Pulse-Ordinance Multi-Driver
KX139 TA'UNAR SUPREMACY [225]
1 KX139 Ta'unar Supremacy Battlesuit unit, Pulse-Ordinance Multi-Driver
Air caste formations:
MANTA DROPSHIP [575] <-- Deployed by Planetfall
SPACECRAFT [225]
1 Protector Class II Cruiser
ORCA DROPSHIP [150] <-- Deployed as a regular bomber
It's a bit short on activations for my taste, but the Manta is very expensive