Ah I follow you, sorry.
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| Author: | The_Real_Chris [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
I'll try and put here for reference purposes the FW, SG and 40k stats (well, just the weapon load outs from 40k if i know them, which isn't often!). Its likely I'll make a lot of mistakes so please correct me. Here is the FW army list, somewhat roughly copied (and not very well!). |
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| Author: | colonel_sponsz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
Here is my breakdown of the Forgeworld Epic Tau List from IA3 and how if differs from the SG V4.0 List (PDF). There are quite a few stat-line differences between the V4 SG list and the IA3 list in addition to the Force Org changes. Orde |
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| Author: | Lion in the Stars [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
How much detail do you want to the 40k stats? I've got both the 3rd ed and 4th ed Tau codecii, and IA3. It's no trouble for me to post however much info that you want. |
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
Stats for the weapons in Wh40k can already be found here: http://www.tacticalwargames.net/cgi-bin....t=11378 |
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| Author: | Jstr19 [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
The speed Bomber and aircraft on the Manta is almost certainly a copy and paste error on the part of FW. It also has the support craft rule which is virtually identical to the SG one. If its an aircraft, the support craft rule makes no sense at all. |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
It's certainly a copy-paste error. |
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| Author: | The_Real_Chris [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
The stats are pretty irrelevant. Rather just the load outs (1 hammerhead has x, a fire warrior squad consists of x troopers carrying y and z etc) are needed. |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
The stats are pretty irrelevant. I wouldn't say the stats are irrelevant when the Manta: Goes up by 1 DC. Goes from FF5+ to FF3+. Is less powerful at long range than the SG Manta. It changes the whole way in which the Manta should be used within the army list (Instead of yet another long-range shooting platform like the Moray, Scorpionfish, Swordfish, etc, it is a Planetfalling Assault beast). So the FW's version of the Manta, like the rest of the FW list, is not so biased towards staying as far away from the enemy as possible and blasting away with no-LOF guns, and instead is a linebreaker, a lynchpin around which the Tau can build a themed force. JMHO. |
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| Author: | The_Real_Chris [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
Not the FW stats E&C, the 40k weapon stats (strength, wounds etc). |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
Ah I follow you, sorry.
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| Author: | Lion in the Stars [ Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
OK, that's no problem. Do you want my usual loadouts, or the range of possible loadouts? I can also dig out the old (3rd ed 40k, right after the Tau were released) White Dwarf articles where they were talking about alternate Crisis loadouts, but some of those are, while not obsolete, certainly much less effective in 4th ed. |
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| Author: | The_Real_Chris [ Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
Here is stuff from the web plus from a couple of store books. Please correct. Also have left off options that aren't on the FW models. EPIC TAU FUSION BLASTER DRONE TURRETS Pack of 3 12/12/12  EPIC TAU BURST CANNON DRONE TURRETS Pack of 3  EPIC TAU PLASMA RIFLE DRONE TURRETS Pack of 3  EPIC TAU MISSILE DRONE TURRETS Pack of 3 Markerlight turret 10/10/10 Markerlight  EPIC TAU SKYRAY Pack of 3 13/12/10 70kph 6 Seekers, 2 markerlights, 2x drones with twin linked pulse carbines/SMS  EPIC 40,000 TAU DEVILFISH Pack of 3. 12/11/10 75kph 12 men (2 units) Burst cannon, 2x drones with twin linked pulse carbines, 2 seeker missiles  EPIC 40,000 TAU HAMMERHEAD WITH RAILGUNS Pack of 3 13/12/10 70kph 2 burst cannons/2x drones with twin linked pulse carbines/SMS, 4 seeker missiles, main weapon  EPIC 40,000 TAU HAMMERHEAD WITH ION CANNONS Pack of 3  EPIC TAU HAMMERHEADS WITH TWIN LINKED BURST CANNON TURRET Pack of 3  EPIC TAU HAMMERHEADS WITH TWIN LINKED FUSION BLASTER TURRET Pack of 3  EPIC TAU HAMMERHEADS WITH TWIN LINKED PLASMA TURRET Pack of 3  EPIC TAU HAMMERHEADS WITH DUAL MISSILE POD TURRET Pack of 3  EPIC 40,000 TAU COMMAND Pack of 1 Ethereal, 1Commander Farsight, 1 Shas'o and 4 Shield Drones  EPIC 40,000 TAU FIRE CASTE WARRIORS Pack of 25. Toughness 3, save 4+ Pulse rifle/pulse carbine, optional markerlight  EPIC 40,000 TAU PATHFINDERS Pack of 10 Toughness 3, save 4+, come with Devilfish, scouts Pulse carbine, markerlight/rail rifle  EPIC 40,000 TAU GUN DRONES Pack of 10 Toughness 3, save 4+ Twin linked pulse carbines Heavy gun drones Toughness 4, save 4+ Twin linked burst cannon/burst cannon and markerlight  EPIC 40,000 TAU STEALTHSUITS Pack of 12 Toughness 3, save 3+ Burst Cannon/ 1/3 fusion blaster, Stealth field, battlesuit support system?, optional markerlight  EPIC 40,000 TAU CRISIS BATTLESUITS Pack of 8 Toughness 4, save 3+ Any 3 - Flamer, Burst Cannon, Plasma Rifle, Fusion blaster, Missile pod, variety of systems  EPIC 40,000 TAU BROADSIDE BATTLESUITS Pack of 6 Toughness 4, save 2+ Twin linked railguns, smart missile system/twin linked plasma rifles  EPIC TAU RECON PACK Pack of 2 Epic 40,000 Tau Piranhas and 3 Epic 40,000 Tau Tetras Piranha 11/10/10 open topped Burst cannon, 2x drones with twin linked pulse carbines, 2 seekers Tetra 10/10/10 open topped Twin linked pulse rifle, markerlight, Disruption pod?  EPIC 40,000 KROOT A pack of 19 Kroot and 1 Shaper Toughness 3 Kroot rifle, can ignore difficult terrain tests, can infiltrate in 40k (what does that do?)  EPIC 40,000 KROOT OX AND KROOT HOUNDS A pack of 10 Kroot Hounds and 4 Kroot Ox Toughness 3  AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU MANTA A Tau Manta Armour 13/12/11 10 DC Deflector Transport quite complex. 4 tanks 10 units 2 crisis (plus 48 FW in dfish if carried) (or 188 FW in total) Twin linked rail guns, 3 twin linked long barrelled ion cannon, twin linked missile pods, 10 seeker missiles, 16 long barrelled burst cannon drone controlled, markerlight  AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU ORCA DROPSHIP Tau Dropship 11/11/10 3 DC Twin linked long barrelled burst cannon, missile pod, up to 4 seeker missiles Transport complex. 24 Tau (2-4 units in 40k), 8 Gun Drones, 1 ethereal. And 24 FW/Gun drones or crisis (4 FW), broadside (8), heavy drone (4), drone turret (6), tetra (12), krootox (4), Kroot hounds (2), - summary 10 units FW, 2 drones, variations on that theme (up to three crisis instead of 5 FW units) Rumours of ones with missile racks and bomber bays  AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU BARRACUDAS Pack of 2. 10/10/10 Ion cannon, 2 burst cannon, twin linked missile pods, 4 seeker missiles  AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU TIGER SHARK Pack of 2 10/10/10 2 DC Twin linked Ion cannons, 2 burst cannon, twin linked missile pods, 6 seeker missiles, optional markerlight 3 drone unit transport  AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU TIGER SHARK AX-1-0 Pack of 2 10/10/10 2 DC Twin linked heavy railguns, 2 burst cannon, twin linked missile pods, 6 seeker missiles, optional markerlight AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU TIGERSHARK AX-2-2 WITH REMORA DRONE STEALTH FIGHTERS Pack of 1 AX-2-2 with docked Remoras and 2 deployed Remora Drone Stealth Fighters.  AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU REMORA DRONE STEALTH FIGHTERS Pack of 4 Remora Drone Stealth Fighters.  AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU AERIAL DRONE MINES Pack of 6 Drone Mines. |
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| Author: | scarik [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW, SG and 40k |
IIRC Hammerhead 1 turret weapon 1 smart missile system (short range, no LOF) may carry seeker missiles Devilfish 1 nose mounted burst cannon 2 drones Transport Fire Warriors Pulse Rifles (slightly more range than other rifles, less than a heavy bolter) up to half may have Pulse Carbines Crisis 2 arm weapons (doubles are twin-linked) 1 shoulder weapon Drones 1 twin-linked weapon, pulse carbines standard Stealthsuits armed with a silenced burstcannon (how do they silence a plasma weapon?) That's all I remember from the various thumpings my DE have given them. |
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