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V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones
The_Real_Chris	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:24 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:45 pm Posts: 8139 Location: London	At the end of the turn. They remain strung out in whatever remnants fashion until then. So as a road block or an ork warband they remain effective. _________________ If using E-Bay use this link to support Tac Com! 'Abolish red trousers?! Never! Red trousers are France!' – Eugene Etienne, War Minister, 1913 "Gentlemen, we may not make history tomorrow, but we shall certainly change the geography." General Plumer, 191x
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Tactica	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:16 am
Brood Brother Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:12 am Posts: 2241	I'm confused on the issues with this at this point. I thought we were done... Do we have a majority consensus? Are we dragging this one on for any reason at this point? cheers, _________________ Rob
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Honda

Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:03 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas

Has anyone tried to use them to slow down an horde army? Perhaps 4 or 6 to teleport in each round in front couple of larger formations? Eg. I'm asking in real use (batrep), not thoretical. In an earlier report, I used them to cordon off Tyranids and what I observed is that the opponent (because I explained what they do) understood the relationship between them and GM weapons, so although initially cautious (i.e. he moved around them), in the latter stages when it was more difficult to put GM assets nearby, he pretty much ignored the ML. I also used them against Saim Hann Eldar to slow down a potential blast up the center, which they did force him to attack the unit to eliminate the early ML coverage. So, is it possible to cordon off areas or delay an advance with them? Yes, that is one of their purposes. Personally, I have not been willing to take more than two units in a +2700 game as they die quickly and immediately hand off points to the tie-breaker. So, if you did lay out 3-4 units in front of someone to delay them, and they killed them off, you are giving the opponent an easy 200-300 pts should you go to a tie. That should be part of the trade off. _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment

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CyberShadow

Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:48 pm

Swarm Tyrant Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 6:22 pm Posts: 9349 Location: Singapore

OK. I have gone with the stats below. One note - I have avoided created a unit which is unaffected by blast markers, and rather put them on Marshall in the end phase only. I think that we should go with this for now. Any last requests or or comments? Force List Markerlight Sentry Contingent Six (6) Markerlight Sentry Drone Turrets, 75 points Upgrades: None Stat Line Type: Light Vehicle Speed: 0cm Armour: 4+ Close Combat: - Firefight: - Weapons: None Notes: Markerlights, Teleport, Robotic sentry. Robotic sentry (main special rule section): Robotic sentry units do not get activations and they cannot be used to claim or contest objectives. Units out of formation coherency in the end phase are treated as destroyed as normal but do not add blast markers to the formation for these destroyed units. These units are treated as being on Marshall orders automatically in the end phase (and only the end phase), and no action test is required for this. _________________ https://www.cybershadow.ninja - A brief look into my twisted world, including wargames and beyond. https://www.net-armageddon.org - The official NetEA (Epic Armageddon) site and resource.

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clausewitz	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:02 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:02 pm Posts: 916 Location: Glasgow, Scotland	Looks good. Succinctly written as well, good job.
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Tactica	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:46 am
Brood Brother Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:12 am Posts: 2241	Looks good - FYI, I'd use "regroup" instead "Marshal" as marshal implies "regroup" as well as "move" or "shoot". _________________ Rob
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The_Real_Chris	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:06 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:45 pm Posts: 8139 Location: London	WHat happens if they break? They can never roll to rally as they are supposed to marshall - or do they break, roll to rally, and then automaticlly marshal - or do they never break? As to not taking BM for units out of coherancy - why? Shouldn't it be a penalty for getting your formation shot in half (I have to live with it with the siegemasters! ). _________________ If using E-Bay use this link to support Tac Com! 'Abolish red trousers?! Never! Red trousers are France!' – Eugene Etienne, War Minister, 1913 "Gentlemen, we may not make history tomorrow, but we shall certainly change the geography." General Plumer, 191x
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clausewitz	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:09 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:02 pm Posts: 916 Location: Glasgow, Scotland	As to not taking BM for units out of coherancy - why? Shouldn't it be a penalty for getting your formation shot in half (I have to live with it with the siegemasters!  ). Robotic Sentries.... panicy human artillery crews

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Honda	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:44 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas	So, in plain terms, what do you mean by "units out of coherency"? Is the whole formation destroyed or just some of it. How is someone who isn't familiar with our rather engaging discussion going to know what this means? Not trying to nit pick, just get ahead of some questions. I'm fine with everything else as soon as TRC's question is answered. _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment
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CyberShadow	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:21 pm
Swarm Tyrant Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 6:22 pm Posts: 9349 Location: Singapore	Quote (Honda @ 16 Mar. 2006 (17:44)) So, in plain terms, what do you mean by "units out of coherency"? Is the whole formation destroyed or just some of it. How is someone who isn't familiar with our rather engaging discussion going to know what this means? Not trying to nit pick, just get ahead of some questions. I'm fine with everything else as soon as TRC's question is answered. Fair enough. I am just thinking of the standard rules (1.7.4 of the rule book). _________________ https://www.cybershadow.ninja - A brief look into my twisted world, including wargames and beyond. https://www.net-armageddon.org - The official NetEA (Epic Armageddon) site and resource.
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clausewitz	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:57 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:02 pm Posts: 916 Location: Glasgow, Scotland	Coherency... The controlling player must remove units until the remaining units in the formation are in coherency. (at the end of the turn) How does that sound?
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Honda	Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:00 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas	The controlling player must remove units until the remaining units in the formation are in coherency. (at the end of the turn) How does that sound? I think that is pretty clear. _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment

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CyberShadow

Post subject: V4.4 - Markerlight Sentry Drones Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:21 pm

Swarm Tyrant Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 6:22 pm Posts: 9349 Location: Singapore

OK. In an attempt to wrap this up quickly... Force List Markerlight Sentry Contingent Six (6) Markerlight Sentry Drone Turrets, 75 points Upgrades: None Stat Line Type: Light Vehicle Speed: 0cm Armour: 4+ Close Combat: - Firefight: - Weapons: None Notes: Markerlights, Teleport, Robotic sentry. Robotic sentry (main special rule section): Robotic sentry units do not get activations and they cannot be used to claim or contest objectives. Units out of formation coherency in the end phase are treated as destroyed as normal but do not add blast markers to the formation for these destroyed units. The controlling player must remove units until the remaining units in the formation are in coherency. In addition, the formation may roll to Rally in each end phase. This is the only action that they are able to perform. OK. Any last comments on this? _________________ https://www.cybershadow.ninja - A brief look into my twisted world, including wargames and beyond. https://www.net-armageddon.org - The official NetEA (Epic Armageddon) site and resource.

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