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Changes for version 4.4.1
HecklerMD	Post subject: Changes for version 4.4.1 Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:36 am
Brood Brother Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:42 am Posts: 201	Am I saying the same thing? Yes. Argumentum ad nauseam or argument from repetition or Argumentum ad infinitum is the false proof of a statement by (prolonged) repetition, possibly by different people. This logical fallacy is commonly used as a form of rhetoric by politicians, and it is one of the mechanisms of reinforcing urban legends. In its extreme form, it can also be a form of brainwashing. In common usage the statement "A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth" is often used to allude to the same concept, which self referentially has been attributed diversely to Lenin, Goebbels, Hitler and Stalin among others, when little evidence can be found to support most of these historical figures having said this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_nauseum

As for armies with a lack of air defence what a total load of rubbish, want me to go back to each batrep and total the points being spent on units with flak attacks or would this be too embarissing?

No, no, allow me..

http://www.epic40k.co.uk/epicomm....;t=6339
6 March 2006
Tau 4.3.3
IG spent 100 points on AA capable units, 0 points on CAP capable units.  Tau oppnent spend 900 points on A-X-10s, and 100 points on a Orca.  Tau outspend points on Air at a 10-1 ratio, with expected (and hoped-for) results

http://www.epic40k.co.uk/epicomm....;t=6024
3 Feb 2006
Tau 4.3.2
Tau spend 875pts on A-X-10s, Eldar spend 450 points on AA capable formations, 300 points on CAP capable formations. Cant really fault this one.  "Venear of plausibility"

http://www.epic40k.co.uk/epicomm....;t=6032
4 Feb 2006
Tau 4.3.2
Tau spend 875 points on A-X-10s. Orks spend 820 points on Flak outranged by the TS by 50%, rather than on units that can take advantage of the Orks strengths and win the game, including 4x 4 unit Flakwagon formations that are unable to take advantage of half the Orks special rule (Mob Up) due to >5 units starting.  Orks spend 400 Points on 2 CAP Capable formations, also handicapped by >5 unit strength.  Points wise this looks educational.  "Looks" being the operative word, which was probably the point.  Composition wise you can see that this is a set-up.  This Ork army was picked and designed to perform poorly in all aspects, and make the A-X-10 look too good, while looking "Fierce" in the AA department.

But, yeah, the Orks did spend more on AA than the Tau spent on Air.  Not wisely, just more.

http://www.epic40k.co.uk/epicomm....;t=5617
23 Dec 2005
Tau 4.3.2 (?)
Tau spend 875pts on A-X-10s.  IG Spend 400 Pts on AA, including 300 points on AA formations that break after 1 kill, (A common criticisim leveled against other 3 strong formations, and still the best way to take Hydras) and 0 points on CAP capable formations
Tau outspend IG 2.1875 to 1

Same post, different batrep...
http://www.epic40k.co.uk/epicomm....;t=5617
23 Dec 2005
Tau 4.3.2 (?)
This could be interesting.  SM AA gets a bad rep, but I find it to be pretty decent:  60CM range, 4+ to hit.  Not too shabby, though a little expensive.  I take 3 or 4 when I play SM, so do my SM opponents.  My A-X-10s have done poorly against the SMs, having been shot down repeatedly, through 4.3.2 till now, with few exceptions... Oh, wait, whats that, TRC?
A lack of hunters also helped decide what was going in.
Ahh, I see.  A lack.
Tau spend 875pts on Air.  SMs spend 150 points on AA capable units and 150 pts on CAP capable units.  Tau outspend SM 2.917 to 1.

Over 5 batreps the Tau's opponents have spent a total of 850 pts on CAP capable units and 1920 on AA capable units vs. 4500pts of Tau Air.  Tau outspend total enemy AA/CAP assets by a factor of over 1.6 to 1.  Average game the opponents spend 550 pts per game on anti-air capabilities, though that varies wildly, and the Tau spend an average of 900 pts a game on Air.

Did I miss anything?

Quote (The_Real_Chris @ 21 April 2006 (00:41))

Why? I don't like the current unit. It may be balanced it may not. So?

Personally, I like to think that if the unit, any unit, is balanced, meaning fair, we can move on.  I guess we forgot to take into account what TRC likes and dislikes.  Silly us!