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Post subject: Hammerhead Discussion  Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:25 am |
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| Quote (Breten @ 22 Dec. 2005 (20:06)) | | I do believe that Crisis suits can garrison as they are Infantry, if I'm remembering correctly, so it'll be better as the separate contingent from my view. ? |
Crisis suits can't garrison. Garrisoning is not about being infantry, it's about having a move of no more than 15 cm (Crisis have 25) or Scout. See rulebook, section 6.1.5.
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Post subject: Hammerhead Discussion Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:17 pm |
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Asaura's got it.
crisis = multiple units faster than 15cm and no scout
Therefore, no garrison.
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Breten
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Post subject: Hammerhead Discussion Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:54 pm |
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Yeah, I checked when I got home last night. I'd forgotten the bit about 15cm MOV. Etiher way they move pretty fast, so we'll have to see how they do in another game.
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Post subject: Hammerhead Discussion Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:22 pm |
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Bretan,
I'm becoming a bigger and bigger fan of the Orca when it comes to crisis/broadsides. Its the only real way to make use of them in the E:A list.
I'm not a big fan of sitting back and just jumping them across the field.
The orca allows you to get where you need to, deliver the goods, and do the damage where you need it on turn 1.
I'm still not a big fan of the crisis, but I think you should seriously consider less upgrades and maybe just running them with an orca.
The orca might get them right where you need them quickly on turn 1. It will provide you more activations and may allow you to capitalize on the desire to have multiple crisis formations.
The downside is the Orca comes from Aircraft section (as it should mind you!!) and thus each one that you take chews into your rather precious and limited resources of aircraft. We depend upon that section quite a bit to allow or list to work properly in E:A. So I would limit myself 1 to 2 orcas but that also means only 1-2 crisis/broadside formations too if you adhere to that recomendation.
If that doesn't work, then I'd go back to my other suggestion of bolstering the ranks in the aforementioned responses.
GL and let us know what you end up settling on.
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Post subject: Hammerhead Discussion Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:57 am |
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| Quote (Tactica @ 22 Dec. 2005 (22:30)) | However, Bretan really likes the crisis formation and typically seems to work two of these formations into his lists. I respect that. If you can get the formation in close - three shots per stand can add up on a mixed unit type enemy formation.
I suggested the Piranha and Stingray as
1) Bretan stated that he wanted to try Ion's with his crisis
2) Bretan said he was wanting to add some more 'bang' to the formaiton
3) somebody said the Ion's would become fragile in an infantry formation
The switch between FW+DevF or drones add in inf/veh ablative units for the core crisis and ion-head formaion's base. So here's his extra units for the meat of his formation.
I would then incorporate piranha or stingray as further 'bang' and ablative needs for the increasing formation.
Its worth noting that I tried taking the piranhas to bolster a stingray formation recently. (See I got a 4K game in) thread. My opinion of the formation overall was a bit lack luster until it could get close and maximize from sustain fire against no armor infantry in cover.
Personally - I'm not a big fan of the crisis formation - so although I'm trying to offer help to Bretan, none of these formations typically make it into my lists.
Final thought - I vow to find a way to use crisis in my own lists to an acceptable level. I've not achieved that zen like state as of yet... but I'm working on it. The reason - its a challenge. Moreover, I absolutely love the crisis in 40K, but they just don't cut it in E:A for me (personally).
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I am definately determined to get the most out of my Crisis suits and make these guys work. Luckily most of my opponents typically field 50% Infantry, so this will work for me. For now.
We have a few new guys starting up so I imagine the tactics will be changing especially as we add Tau into the mix.
And I definately appreciate the help on these lists and tactics. The more I read and play, the more I'm understanding what works and the depth of this system.
I think planning an army out and ordering it would have been better, though I did get a good solid chunk, but I should have bought an extra pack of Hammerheads instead of crisis suits. So by hell or highwater, I will make my Crisis suits work for me, whatever it takes. Now I just need to get my hands on an Orca or two.
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