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Moscovian
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:57 pm 
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Some of us don't need your vulgar terminology, Honda.  I prefer tinkle or whiz.   :grin:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:03 pm 
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Quote: (Honda @ Nov. 13 2009, 12:40 )

What we are not supposed to do is stand in opposite corners and pee on each other.

I thought that was just an inherent joy in Tau list development. Wouldn't be half as entertaining otherwise.

Also, for the British amongst us, please use waz. My understanding of American is slowly improving but not quite there yet :laugh:

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Quote: (Honda @ Nov. 13 2009, 12:40 )

I too am intrigued by Zombo's proposal.

same here, an original idea if ever I've seen one. Would work nicely with the whole "Tau synergy" concept too.

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I thought that was just an inherent joy in Tau list development. Wouldn't be half as entertaining otherwise.


Thank you, that made my Friday.  :agree:

@Mosc: I have edited my previous post for those who do not share the delicate sensibilities of Texans.

Seriously, I'm interested in testing Zombo's proposal. It integrates nicely with the Tau synergistic effect of MLs. What I could see as being annoying though, is how the missile could go from ML/no ML/ML bands of coverage, thus potentially introducing "discussions" along with shooting during AA as well as extra measuring from the Skyray and the outlying MLs.

Just so I'm clear, the price of the existing formation would stay the same, any upgrade would be +75. Correcto? If there is a concern with fielding 4 Skyrays in one formation, seems like one way of handling that is dropping the Skyray upgrade, then it remains it's fragility.

Should there be a a cost downgrade associated with the potential change?

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Quote: (Morgan Vening @ Nov. 13 2009, 11:24 )

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Homer reference FTW.
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Quote: (Otterman @ Nov. 13 2009, 18:49 )

Quote: (Morgan Vening @ Nov. 13 2009, 11:24 )

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Homer reference FTW.

I thought it was appropriate.

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*places a bet at the local casino to see when a mod will abuse his power and shut down other person's post because he disagrees with it*

Not very 'fair dinkum' Honda, not at all    :disagree:

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Quote: (frogbear @ Nov. 13 2009, 14:49 )

*places a bet at the local casino to see when a mod will abuse his power and shut down other person's post because he disagrees with it*

Not very 'fair dinkum' Honda, not at all    :disagree:

I could try wazzing on you from the corner if that would help?

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If a roulette wheel comes up with the number '20' 12 times in a row, the Casino will not take the number off and disallow bets on the number. They will either replace the wheel as faulty or put it down to a rare freak occurance.

Hence, playtests are the same. They are fractionally useful. Basic math, probability and then comparrisons need to form the basis for the majority of the costing and makeup of a unit IMO. From there, playtests can be used to 'tweak'

I would like to go into that more with some examples from a previously closed post, however I would hate to see yet another post closed down due to challenging another person's opinions.

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Quote: (mattthemuppet @ Nov. 14 2009, 04:59 )

wazzing

ah you young-uns and your funky words   :;):  

What is 'wazzing' for futrure reference?

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Quote: (frogbear @ Nov. 13 2009, 15:06 )

Quote: (mattthemuppet @ Nov. 14 2009, 04:59 )

wazzing

ah you young-uns and your funky words   :;):  

What is 'wazzing' for futrure reference?

Whizzing, leaking, pissing, urinating, etc.  :;):

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yeah, I guess I am not into that. I guess it is an aversion to the color yellow.  :upside:

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Quote: (zombocom @ Nov. 14 2009, 01:44 )

Actually I think AA6+ for skyrays, allowing ML bonus for AA and dropping the upgrade price to 75 points could solve quite a few issues with the list.

I have been looking over this one, and have a few questions:

1. Based on how markerlights work, should they be used to track aircraft that are speeding across a sky? I thought the whole thing about ML were that you need to hold them on a target for other units (including aircraft) to target the squad. If that is the case, I fail to see how you can ML something moving at times 'x' the speed of everything else on the board.

2. Where are the ML measured from? The Skyray? Other ML units? This is not clear...

I personally think it is an interesting proposal, (and funnily enough the same as in the other post that was closed), yet I would hate a rule to go against the initial reasonings behind how something is used just to price something down. In that case, I would rather they stay as they are, with a premium cost.




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I would like to go into that more with some examples from a previously closed post, however I would hate to see yet another post closed down due to challenging another person's opinions.


The other post was not closed because someone challenged another's opinion. The other post was closed because it was turning into an argument. Plain and simple.




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