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Why is it that a Weapon Head reduces CC by -1 and vice versa for a Close Combat Head. I would have thought that a titans CC ability was based on its arms and legs dealing death. And that the addition of a CC head would only augment this. Whist its FF value is based on the weapons fitted and any defence weapons in the titan. So the addition of a CC head has no bearing on its ability to fire fight and as such does not detract from its ability to, so why does it?

So aren't they better stated at: Weapon Head 15cm ?Small arms Extra Attacks +1(2?), Close Combat Head Base Contact Assault Weapon +1 (2?)

Cheers
CAL

Author:	CAL001 [ Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:45 am ]
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Why is it that a Weapon Head reduces CC by -1 and vice versa for a Close Combat Head. I would have thought that a titans CC ability was based on its arms and legs dealing death. And that the addition of a CC head would only augment this. Whist its FF value is based on the weapons fitted and any defence weapons in the titan. So the addition of a CC head has no bearing on its ability to fire fight and as such does not detract from its ability to, so why does it? So aren't they better stated at: Weapon Head 15cm Small arms Extra Attacks +1(2?), Close Combat Head Base Contact Assault Weapon +1 (2?) Cheers CAL

Author:	tchristney [ Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:37 am ]
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I would say yes, but it'll cost ya.

Author:	Evil and Chaos [ Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:35 am ]
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Historically, that's how they worked. Oh and as Collector's models they're not valid for use unless you use modular titan costings.

Author:	ragnarok [ Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:14 am ]
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I always assumed that is was more than just a different looking head, it would also have differing electronics and a crew mentality. It alsos represents a massive refit of the titans PDW. A close combat headed titan might have a few more bolters studdy to it and better motors and articulators (sp?) to allow it to stop more easily. Whereas a firefight head would represent the stompy articulators being downgraded and reduced in size for extra ranges PDW and targeting matrixes.

Author:	Blarg D Impaler [ Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:35 pm ]
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(CAL001 @ Sep. 16 2006,21:45) QUOTE Why is it that a Weapon Head reduces CC by -1 and vice versa for a Close Combat Head. I would have thought that a titans CC ability was based on its arms and legs dealing death. And that the addition of a CC head would only augment this. Whist its FF value is based on the weapons fitted and any defence weapons in the titan. So the addition of a CC head has no bearing on its ability to fire fight and as such does not detract from its ability to, so why does it? So aren't they better stated at: Weapon Head 15cm ?Small arms Extra Attacks +1(2?), Close Combat Head Base Contact Assault Weapon +1 (2?) Cheers CAL The +1/-1 that you are seeing is not to the number of attacks, but to the to-hit numbers for the titan. So, for a Reaver with a weapon head the CC value goes from a 3+ to a 4+ (making it harder to hit with CC attacks) while the FF goes from a 3+ to a 2+ (making it easier to hit with FF attacks). While the head may have very little bearing upon how well a titan performs in an assault, a weapon or close combat head would be representative of a titan that has been outfitted with a wide variety of small weapon blivets or extra cutting / chopping / grinding bits. If you are going to put a CC or weapon head on a titan you should also do further modifications to the miniature to show the further modifications.

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Author:	nealhunt [ Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:52 pm ]
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I have 2 issues with the CC/FF heads. 1) A CC head on a Warlord is pointelss as it already as 2+CC. 2) There are multiple interactions when you start changing the base CC/FF values which can cause balance problems. Simply adding extra attacks makes for a smoother system with similar overall effects.

Author:	BlackLegion [ Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:29 pm ]
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Adding +1 Extra Attack for FF/CC seems to be the best solution for the heads. Perhabs if yopu have a CC-Head you gain +1EA for CC but loose 1 Attack for FF? The same but in reverse for the Weapon-Head.

Author:	CAL001 [ Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:05 pm ]
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Food for thought, thanks gents. CAL

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